Posted: 3/20/2014 12:44:35 AM EDT
| I sold off my xds45. The recoil and number of rounds it could hold where its drawbacks. So I planned on getting a new XDs in 9mm but I was messing with one at my gun shop and im not impressed. The trigger feels like crap its super stiff and gritty. Is this just the way they are now because of the new design because the one I sold had a trigger that was miles ahead of this. Any input is appreciated |
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I have an XDS45 that I personally did a full fluff and buff on. The trigger is gunsmith quality as it is now and I have not yet sent it out for the so called "update" that I feel is bogus anyhow.
Some guy said the gun doubled on him and he sent it back to Springfield. If I read it correctly, Springfield had to modify his gun to get it to double again but the lawyers kicked in and they decided to do a "voluntary" recall which shortly turned into a, don't use the gun until it has been upgraded, recall. I have pulled the trigger on a few upgraded XDS's and do not like it at all. Many on the XDS forum state that after installing a PRP spring kit the trigger is greatly improved. I did install one on a friend's XDS last week and even after shining all moving parts before putting it back together, I still though the trigger was crap. I think they may have changed the sear/striker relationship but who knows for sure. I do know if you bend a particular spring (I think it is the grip safety spring) you improve the trigger but I would be a tough call to get any upgraded trigger as good as mine is now. I wasn't going to send the gun in at all but I find myself weakening and may just go ahead and do it for resale value if I decide to sell it someday. I can say one thing, I have never seen another small gun shoot as good as the XDS. It is amazingly accurate and reliable. That is one thing that makes it a keeper to me. |
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I have an XDS45 that I personally did a full fluff and buff on. The trigger is gunsmith quality as it is now and I have not yet sent it out for the so called "update" that I feel is bogus anyhow. Some guy said the gun doubled on him and he sent it back to Springfield. If I read it correctly, Springfield had to modify his gun to get it to double again but the lawyers kicked in and they decided to do a "voluntary" recall which shortly turned into a, don't use the gun until it has been upgraded, recall. I have pulled the trigger on a few upgraded XDS's and do not like it at all. Many on the XDS forum state that after installing a PRP spring kit the trigger is greatly improved. I did install one on a friend's XDS last week and even after shining all moving parts before putting it back together, I still though the trigger was crap. I think they may have changed the sear/striker relationship but who knows for sure. I do know if you bend a particular spring (I think it is the grip safety spring) you improve the trigger but I would be a tough call to get any upgraded trigger as good as mine is now. I wasn't going to send the gun in at all but I find myself weakening and may just go ahead and do it for resale value if I decide to sell it someday. I can say one thing, I have never seen another small gun shoot as good as the XDS. It is amazingly accurate and reliable. That is one thing that makes it a keeper to me. Well one thing about the "bogus" update is no matter wether you think they do anything or not they will send you an extra magazine back with your gun. I know you will not have it for a while but they are well in to the process so it should take a bit less time than it was in the beginning but a free mag is always good. |
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I have an XDS45 that I personally did a full fluff and buff on. The trigger is gunsmith quality as it is now and I have not yet sent it out for the so called "update" that I feel is bogus anyhow. Some guy said the gun doubled on him and he sent it back to Springfield. If I read it correctly, Springfield had to modify his gun to get it to double again but the lawyers kicked in and they decided to do a "voluntary" recall which shortly turned into a, don't use the gun until it has been upgraded, recall. I have pulled the trigger on a few upgraded XDS's and do not like it at all. Many on the XDS forum state that after installing a PRP spring kit the trigger is greatly improved. I did install one on a friend's XDS last week and even after shining all moving parts before putting it back together, I still though the trigger was crap. I think they may have changed the sear/striker relationship but who knows for sure. I do know if you bend a particular spring (I think it is the grip safety spring) you improve the trigger but I would be a tough call to get any upgraded trigger as good as mine is now. I wasn't going to send the gun in at all but I find myself weakening and may just go ahead and do it for resale value if I decide to sell it someday. I can say one thing, I have never seen another small gun shoot as good as the XDS. It is amazingly accurate and reliable. That is one thing that makes it a keeper to me. In my experience this is spot on in all areas except one. I installed the PRP kit a few nights ago and it made it feel like a completely different trigger. After I got my .45 back I ran about 400 snap caps through it and dry fired probably another 100-200 times, didnt make much of a difference. I put 80 rds through it, loosened up a tiny bit but still felt like crap. I almost put it up for sale then but didnt want to since I had adopted early and paid about $600 for it and they're selling for $500 new now. So after reading the tab about the PRP kit I figured what's another $20? So glad I did! One of the LGS guys has a digital trigger pull thing and mine went from 8.9 lbs before the kit to 5.6 after. I cant recommend their kit enough. :) |
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In my experience this is spot on in all areas except one. I installed the PRP kit a few nights ago and it made it feel like a completely different trigger. After I got my .45 back I ran about 400 snap caps through it and dry fired probably another 100-200 times, didnt make much of a difference. I put 80 rds through it, loosened up a tiny bit but still felt like crap. I almost put it up for sale then but didnt want to since I had adopted early and paid about $600 for it and they're selling for $500 new now. So after reading the tab about the PRP kit I figured what's another $20? So glad I did! One of the LGS guys has a digital trigger pull thing and mine went from 8.9 lbs before the kit to 5.6 after. I cant recommend their kit enough. :) Quoted:
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I have an XDS45 that I personally did a full fluff and buff on. The trigger is gunsmith quality as it is now and I have not yet sent it out for the so called "update" that I feel is bogus anyhow. Some guy said the gun doubled on him and he sent it back to Springfield. If I read it correctly, Springfield had to modify his gun to get it to double again but the lawyers kicked in and they decided to do a "voluntary" recall which shortly turned into a, don't use the gun until it has been upgraded, recall. I have pulled the trigger on a few upgraded XDS's and do not like it at all. Many on the XDS forum state that after installing a PRP spring kit the trigger is greatly improved. I did install one on a friend's XDS last week and even after shining all moving parts before putting it back together, I still though the trigger was crap. I think they may have changed the sear/striker relationship but who knows for sure. I do know if you bend a particular spring (I think it is the grip safety spring) you improve the trigger but I would be a tough call to get any upgraded trigger as good as mine is now. I wasn't going to send the gun in at all but I find myself weakening and may just go ahead and do it for resale value if I decide to sell it someday. I can say one thing, I have never seen another small gun shoot as good as the XDS. It is amazingly accurate and reliable. That is one thing that makes it a keeper to me. In my experience this is spot on in all areas except one. I installed the PRP kit a few nights ago and it made it feel like a completely different trigger. After I got my .45 back I ran about 400 snap caps through it and dry fired probably another 100-200 times, didnt make much of a difference. I put 80 rds through it, loosened up a tiny bit but still felt like crap. I almost put it up for sale then but didnt want to since I had adopted early and paid about $600 for it and they're selling for $500 new now. So after reading the tab about the PRP kit I figured what's another $20? So glad I did! One of the LGS guys has a digital trigger pull thing and mine went from 8.9 lbs before the kit to 5.6 after. I cant recommend their kit enough. :) For $20...might as well. Thanks for the recommendation I'll save this. Looking into an XDS myself |
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The issue is I don't like modifying carry guns. Because I feel As it could hurt you in court if you ever have to use it. I doubt changing springs will get you in trouble should you ever end up in court. For example, people add night sights to pistols all the time and I dont recall ever hearing/reading anything about a judge coming down harder on someone for their "modded weapon". If you have an example please share it. |
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I doubt changing springs will get you in trouble should you ever end up in court. For example, people add night sights to pistols all the time and I dont recall ever hearing/reading anything about a judge coming down harder on someone for their "modded weapon". If you have an example please share it. Quoted:
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The issue is I don't like modifying carry guns. Because I feel As it could hurt you in court if you ever have to use it. I doubt changing springs will get you in trouble should you ever end up in court. For example, people add night sights to pistols all the time and I dont recall ever hearing/reading anything about a judge coming down harder on someone for their "modded weapon". If you have an example please share it. I have no example of this happening but who is to say it wouldn't. |
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I doubt changing springs will get you in trouble should you ever end up in court. For example, people add night sights to pistols all the time and I dont recall ever hearing/reading anything about a judge coming down harder on someone for their "modded weapon". If you have an example please share it. Quoted:
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The issue is I don't like modifying carry guns. Because I feel As it could hurt you in court if you ever have to use it. I doubt changing springs will get you in trouble should you ever end up in court. For example, people add night sights to pistols all the time and I dont recall ever hearing/reading anything about a judge coming down harder on someone for their "modded weapon". If you have an example please share it. In the post George Zimmerman world I prefer to leave a CCW trigger factory stock . |
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Changing the gun sights is not the same as changing the trigger simply because one is part of the fire control and the other one is not. To be fair, it’s a hard choice since on one hand reducing the trigger weight from something like 8-10 lbs to 5 lbs is really not unreasonable in terms of trigger weight i.e. it is not really a light trigger. The flip side is when someone comes after you in a court, they also don’t really have to be "reasonable”, if one look at all the claims that most people would classify as "frivolous” that actually won in courts, most of us would be pretty surprised. So it is really a personal choice in terms of the degree of risk you are willing to take. |
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I have an XDS45 that I personally did a full fluff and buff on. The trigger is gunsmith quality as it is now and I have not yet sent it out for the so called "update" that I feel is bogus anyhow. Some guy said the gun doubled on him and he sent it back to Springfield. If I read it correctly, Springfield had to modify his gun to get it to double again but the lawyers kicked in and they decided to do a "voluntary" recall which shortly turned into a, don't use the gun until it has been upgraded, recall. I have pulled the trigger on a few upgraded XDS's and do not like it at all. Many on the XDS forum state that after installing a PRP spring kit the trigger is greatly improved. I did install one on a friend's XDS last week and even after shining all moving parts before putting it back together, I still though the trigger was crap. I think they may have changed the sear/striker relationship but who knows for sure. I do know if you bend a particular spring (I think it is the grip safety spring) you improve the trigger but I would be a tough call to get any upgraded trigger as good as mine is now. I wasn't going to send the gun in at all but I find myself weakening and may just go ahead and do it for resale value if I decide to sell it someday. I can say one thing, I have never seen another small gun shoot as good as the XDS. It is amazingly accurate and reliable. That is one thing that makes it a keeper to me. Haven't sent mine in either. It's one of the best shooters that I own. |
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Quoted: Haven't sent mine in either. It's one of the best shooters that I own. Quoted: Quoted: I have an XDS45 that I personally did a full fluff and buff on. The trigger is gunsmith quality as it is now and I have not yet sent it out for the so called "update" that I feel is bogus anyhow. Some guy said the gun doubled on him and he sent it back to Springfield. If I read it correctly, Springfield had to modify his gun to get it to double again but the lawyers kicked in and they decided to do a "voluntary" recall which shortly turned into a, don't use the gun until it has been upgraded, recall. I have pulled the trigger on a few upgraded XDS's and do not like it at all. Many on the XDS forum state that after installing a PRP spring kit the trigger is greatly improved. I did install one on a friend's XDS last week and even after shining all moving parts before putting it back together, I still though the trigger was crap. I think they may have changed the sear/striker relationship but who knows for sure. I do know if you bend a particular spring (I think it is the grip safety spring) you improve the trigger but I would be a tough call to get any upgraded trigger as good as mine is now. I wasn't going to send the gun in at all but I find myself weakening and may just go ahead and do it for resale value if I decide to sell it someday. I can say one thing, I have never seen another small gun shoot as good as the XDS. It is amazingly accurate and reliable. That is one thing that makes it a keeper to me. Haven't sent mine in either. It's one of the best shooters that I own. Me neither, I don't see the situation when I would chamber the round without engaging the grip safety and cause problems. I don't want to fiddle with the trigger when now is perfect |
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So, I got one of them PRP spring kits, and looked on line on how to install it. Looks easy enough after watching Big Dawg Beav and James Nicholas You Tube videos. So my question is will this kit work on a recalled modified gun? As long as you bought the kit recently it should be for post recall. Be careful with the vids because the Big Dawg Beav video is pre recall and there is a difference. James Nicholson has one for the updated sear housing and prp has a video. Prp's video is a little crappy but it is helpful. I just put in a kit and watched the prp video a few times before doing it and everything went fine. Night and day difference. |