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8/29/2008 10:35:30 AM EDT
i was looking for a revolver for a ccw.   looking at j frames and they seem over played   ya i know its not a fashion statement  but  iv been a colt fan for a while   iv seen many pictures of the agent my only gripe is with the exposed hammer but then i picked up the new issue of handgunner and saw one with something that looks like a bolt on cover that goes over what a suppose is a dehorned hammer  what is that   whats it called  where can i get one      also the grip extention that looks like it would make the grip thicker on the front strap  is there any where to get these  my google came up short ut i dont know what there called     are these thing custom gunsmithing only any info would be great       thanks guys
8/29/2008 5:57:39 PM EDT
[#1]
Here is a picture of my Agent. It's one of my favorite carry guns. It has a factory hammer shroud that keeps it from snaggin on a draw but still lets you cock the hammer for single action shooting. If you find a nice Agent/Cobra/Detective Special they can be added but the frames only need to be drilled and tapped for the 3-mounting screws.  I've changed grips since this pic was taken  and it now has Badger grips (Badgercustomgrips.com) that are MUCH nicer for shooting and a little thinner for carry.


and here is a pic of another Colt (not mine) with badger grips


8/30/2008 8:01:02 PM EDT
[#2]
The shroud does what it’s supposed to, but I’ve never liked them since they have a protrusion that digs into the web of your hand.  It’s still being made, though I forget by whom.

The grip adapter you’re thinking about is probably something like a Tyler T-grip adapter.  It’s also still in production.  See:  www.t-grips.com/
8/31/2008 5:46:16 AM EDT
[#3]
those are the grips i was talking about   didnt know they had them for the j frame thanks for the info i guess i will have to handle one of these agents   see how it feels these small frame guns are uncomfortable enough with +p ammo dont need anything else to make it worse not  that its a range gun or anything but gotta be decent lol     thanks for all the help guys   and if anyone knows who still makes the shroud le me know
8/31/2008 8:06:30 AM EDT
[#4]
I've never had any issues with the hammer shroud digging into my hand when shooting actually. Here is a website you can buy a new shroud for them. (w/o Pony insignia) Any qualified gunsmith can drill/tap your frame for mounting. If you intend to do any major amount of +P shooting you might want to invest in a steel framed Detective Special instead of the alloy Agent/Cobra series pistol. Colt doesn't recommend +P shooting with these alloy framed guns. I carry +P ammo in mine most times but actually do ALL of my practice shooting with standard .38 ammo.

Waller and Sons hammer shroud
8/31/2008 10:47:32 AM EDT
[#5]
awsome thanks for the link have you ever tried +p thru her   i def would not pratice with it but would like to carry it and know it will handle it   and not lock up on me somehow
8/31/2008 12:27:47 PM EDT
[#6]
The aluminum Colt's made after 1972 with the heavy, shrouded barrel were factory rated for "up to" 1500 rounds of +P ammo.
After that, they needed a trip back to Colt for inspection and probably a new frame.

Guns made before 1972 with the old skinny barrel with the exposed ejector rod were NOT factory rated for ANY +P ammo.

However, if you practice with .38 Specials and only load the +P up for "business" the gun isn't going to explode or lock up.
It'll just wear out and get out of time very quickly.
9/1/2008 5:41:22 AM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
awsome thanks for the link have you ever tried +p thru her   i def would not pratice with it but would like to carry it and know it will handle it   and not lock up on me somehow


I haven't shot any +P ammo in it as of yet, but I do carry the Short Barrell Gold Dot JHP +P ammo in mine. I've only shot standard target ammo in it.
9/1/2008 8:59:05 AM EDT
[#8]
I asked Cylinder and Slide about adding a shroud to mine, and they recommended against it. Their assessment was that they all work loose and/or break. Since they can't guarantee it, they won't recommend it.
9/2/2008 3:34:32 AM EDT
[#9]
That's strange! Mine has never worked loose at all. If that was an issue a little dab of Lock-tite would be all you'd need to fix that. Here are some updated pics I took today.


9/2/2008 1:07:27 PM EDT
[#10]
When they say "works loose" they don't mean a screw gets loose that can be Loctited.

Revolvers shot with higher pressure loads "shoot loose".
What this means is the action parts stretch out of shape, get battered, and simply wear.
In extreme cases the frame can stretch.
Caught soon enough, Colt revolvers can be repaired by replacing or re-fitting critical parts.
In the case of aluminum models, the fame can wear and since there are no more replacements available, the gun is "toast".

Again, Colt only rated the newer Post-1972 heavy shrouded barrel aluminum guns for ANY +P ammo, and then only for "about 1500" rounds.