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2/19/2008 4:41:29 PM EDT
Worth a Shit?  My father had a pt92 9mm years ago and it was decent.  I am looking for a cost effective revolver solution until i can afford a smith.  Looking for 4" .357 mag.  I will probably shoot .38 sp otu of the gun most of the time at the range and it will be a nightstand gun as well.

any suggestions or personal experience would be appreciated
2/19/2008 5:48:32 PM EDT
[#1]
I'm a fan of Taurus pistols.

But that said, what you just described is available as a excellent condition Police trade in at CDNN in their paper catalog for about $300. S&W M65 4" .357 Magnum.

Here's one I bought from them, through my local shop, this past Fall. Why get the Taurus when you can get the original in excellent mechanical shape?


2/19/2008 5:58:00 PM EDT
[#2]
I have had a couple and they are ok for what they are.  Low cost copies of S&W.  I would say get a S&W if possible, even if it used.  A used Model 65 or 13 should be fine for what you described.
2/20/2008 5:50:21 AM EDT
[#3]
I have never owned a Taurus, nor do I plan to own one. My experience with the guns of others suggests that their quality is inconsistent. You might get something that is ok, or you may get something that is poorly heat treated and will break the first time you use it. Quality is too inconsistent for me to bother with them. Get the S&W.
2/20/2008 10:44:29 AM EDT
[#4]
Scratch the Taurus i just got intimate with a Ruger GP141 six shot .357 mag.  It got put on Layaway, Total Price with tax added in $469

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2/20/2008 6:50:07 PM EDT
[#5]
I am looking at that as well, where did you get it?



Quoted:
Scratch the Taurus i just got intimate with a Ruger GP141 six shot .357 mag.  It got put on Layaway, Total Price with tax added in $469

Factory gun pron


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2/20/2008 7:37:37 PM EDT
[#6]
+1 for Ruger

But if I wasn't a lefty those older "Pre-lock" smiths would be top on my hit list!
2/20/2008 7:58:36 PM EDT
[#7]
a place called shooters of columbus,  buds guns has them for $397 delivered if you have a shop that will do the tranfer for you cheaply


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I am looking at that as well, where did you get it?


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Quoted:
Scratch the Taurus i just got intimate with a Ruger GP141 six shot .357 mag.  It got put on Layaway, Total Price with tax added in $469

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2/21/2008 6:42:44 AM EDT
[#8]
I was tossing this same question around recently, and per the consensus on the forum, bought a 4" stainless Ruger GP100 at Bass Pro for $499.  It is a first class piece, very decent trigger, and not much more than $100 more than the Taurus I was eye-balling.
2/21/2008 2:09:10 PM EDT
[#9]
thanks so you like the ruger piece?
2/21/2008 2:36:22 PM EDT
[#10]
the taurus raging bull i get my hands on is pretty good. i can vouch for at least that.
2/21/2008 2:43:32 PM EDT
[#11]
Taurus makes a decent gun. S&W is better. Depending on how much use you plan on giving it with .357 ammo, you might be better off with a ruger.
2/22/2008 12:29:23 PM EDT
[#12]
50ttop, I've had a Ruger MKII for quite a while, have a couple of Smith .357s, but no Ruger wheelguns.  I like a "value" piece as much as anyone, have a Bersa .380 auto, and a nice Rossi .38, so the Taurus 66 really had my eye.  I stuck a thread here a month or two back looking for feedback, and there just sort of seemed to be mixed reviews on the Taurus, everybody likes a Smith but they're clearly the most costly, but nobody had too much bad to say about a Ruger, with a number of comments to the effect that they are very sturdy, but trigger inferior to a Smith.  A couple specifically mentioned liking a GP100.

So I went with the GP100, 4", was about $100 more than the Taurus, nearly $200 less than the Smith (a 686), and I've got to say that I have been quite taken with the quality for the $$.  The price at Bass Pro was very close to Bud's after shipping/transfer, so price seemed right.   Beautifully finished (stainless), feels like carved from billet, and the pleasant surprise was the extremely smooth DA trigger, and crisp and reasonably light SA.  Maybe not quite up to a Smith, trigger-wise, but it seems just as well made in every other respect (I have a Smith M60 and M66.)

I'm sure I probably would have liked the Taurus, and may eventually get one, but on this particular purchase (wanted another 4" .357), I am very well-satisfied with the Ruger
2/22/2008 1:10:15 PM EDT
[#13]
I keep seeing comments on how great Smith's triggers are. And I have a 4" M65 ex-Police revolver made back in 1997 that has to be about as fine a trigger as a pistol can have. It represents everything that is best about S&W to me.

But when shopping revolvers with my wife this past Fall we tried many revolvers. Even rented a few at a range to live fire. Frankly all the new S&W's we checked out had poor trigger feel. I was really disappointed in them and wondered how they could command their premium price. Where as the Taurus's and Ruger guns we checked out all had very good to excellent triggers (We both noticed even within a certain moeld, the feel can vary from pistol to pistol.) and all were better than the S&Ws we tried.
Although I liked the Ruger 101 best, I had to remember we were shopping for my wife that time. She liked the Taurus 85ss best because of it's compact size and excellent trigger feel. She has tiny hands and it suits her perfectly. It has turned out to be a real peach at the range too.

Has anyone else here been trying out new S&Ws this past year and comparing the feel to other pistols? In my own experience the 1990's pre-lock models seem to be the last of their really good stuff.
2/22/2008 4:22:14 PM EDT
[#14]
The Smiths are very nice...Rugers are built like tanks. It comes down to preference. I am very...VERY...fond of 6.5" Taurus Trackers. They make a 4" ported tracker as well as a Raging Bull. Taurus has improved it's products significantly. I USE my revolvers. The .44Mag and .357Mag have over 2,000 rounds down the pipe...each. No issues.