Posted: 5/31/2015 12:23:37 AM EDT
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I am looking to buy my first revolver and these are two that have stuck out to me.
I like the GP because. It's lighter It's smaller It's cheaper It looks better I'm kind of a fan of Rugers http://www.ruger.com/products/gp100MatchChampion/models.html I like the Smith because. It holds 8 rounds It's probably more refined A little more prestigious http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_750051_765955_-1_757775_757751_757751_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y But really at the end of the day I know basically nothing about either of these firearms seeing as I have no hands on experience with them and since I can't find either to get some first hand experience I come to you to ask opinions. I have also looked at the 686 SSR which puts Smith on the same playing filed as the Ruger as far as size and weight but also consequently takes what I see as one of the biggest advantages of the 686 in the 2 extra rounds. Not to mention it still has that slightly fugly look. My use for this is going to be slapping an optic on it and shooting anywhere from 10 to 100 yards (maybe farther if I'm really feeling crazy) but even though right now longer range stuff is the motivation who knows what the future will hold so versatility is also important. |
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I think the Ruger GP100 Match Champion is a better match for the S&W 686 SSR. The 686 is on the L frame, where the 627 Pro is on the larger N frame. I have a 4" stainless GP100, a 686 SSR, 627 Pro and 627 PC. I like all of them. The PC required the least work on my part to make it a really terrific revo. The 627 Pro didn't require too much work. Both 627s are bulkier than the slightly smaller GP100 or 686. I have large hands, so that works pretty well for me. The 686SSR was pretty well good to go, while the standard GP100 did require a bit of work to smooth the trigger and required a spring kit. The Match Champion is more like the 686SSR in that it has had much of the smoothing done by the factory. I am tempted to get a Match Champion now that they have adjustable sights, but I think I probably have enough .357s.
My 627 Pro is my current house gun. 4" barrel, 8 shots plus a green high viz front sight. |
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I have a 4" stainless GP100, a 686 SSR, 627 Pro and 627 PC. I like all of them. My 627 Pro is my current house gun. 4" barrel, 8 shots plus a green high viz front sight. How much bigger is the 627 than the GP? I went to Cabela's today because they had told me they had a bunch of MC but they had neither a MC or any N frames for me to look at and although I know the 627 is on a bigger frame with a bigger cylinder I have never seen the two side by side to really compare. You say the 627 is your house gun so would you ever consider carrying a revolver of it's size or is it just to big and heavy? |
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The 627 is a N frame so it is quite a bit bigger than the Ruger in girth and weight.
For examples to review the mod 29/629 and 25/625 are N frames if you see one in a store. The Ruger is much more comparable to the 686 models. Keep in mind the 627 is cut for moon clips. You can shoot it without using the moon clips but ejection will likely not function (without moon clips). I have moon clip revolvers and non-moon clip revolvers. If you are just using it at the range or for hunting, the moon clips are a pain. Moon clips shine in competition or any situation where reloading fast is an advantage. |
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How much bigger is the 627 than the GP? I went to Cabela's today because they had told me they had a bunch of MC but they had neither a MC or any N frames for me to look at and although I know the 627 is on a bigger frame with a bigger cylinder I have never seen the two side by side to really compare. You say the 627 is your house gun so would you ever consider carrying a revolver of it's size or is it just to big and heavy? Quoted:
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I have a 4" stainless GP100, a 686 SSR, 627 Pro and 627 PC. I like all of them. My 627 Pro is my current house gun. 4" barrel, 8 shots plus a green high viz front sight. How much bigger is the 627 than the GP? I went to Cabela's today because they had told me they had a bunch of MC but they had neither a MC or any N frames for me to look at and although I know the 627 is on a bigger frame with a bigger cylinder I have never seen the two side by side to really compare. You say the 627 is your house gun so would you ever consider carrying a revolver of it's size or is it just to big and heavy? The L frame guns have the same grip as the K frame guns. The N frame grip is a bit bigger. I don't really know how to describe it. In addition, the entire gun is larger. How it fits is a matter of personal preference. As far as carrying it concealed, Dirty Harry could do it. Most other people would have trouble. I wouldn't try to carry it concealed but I live in a state where I can't get a CCW. If I can ever get a CCW, I have a S&W 340 waiting. |
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Well I had sold myself on a V-comp (close as I could get to the hunter) but after playing with one today I'm not so sure. While it was a big revo I will say it was not quite as big as I thought it was going to be and I could live with it but I am really not sure I felt the Smith "serperior" quality that I always hear about and I really am not sure it's worth twice the price of the Ruger. I mean even with what is one of their top level revo's I can't say it felt like twice the gun and I am not sure it felt all that much better really. Don't get me wrong it is a nice piece and all but for instance the trigger pull in SA action was pretty good (as it is with pretty well all revolvers) but the DA was nothing special at all.
Then I think about how much better I could make the Ruger with all the extra cash but no matter what I can't make it an 8 shot and I really like the idea of an 8 shot revolver. |
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627pro and SSR are competition guns. Unless you plan on shooting comps with it, and reloading for them, I would go with something else. Just my opinion.
I think you should look at the 686+, which is the 7-shot 686. More comparable to the Gp100. And, the extra shot is nice. And can probably be had for quite a bit cheaper than an 627 or SSR. |
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I carry a 4" N frame on occasion.
It's not very difficult. It's a matter of good gear and proper dress.  20150303_183117_LLS by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr
It's actually the most comfortable belt carry rig I've got. The Match Champion is good gun for the money, though I'd much rather have a Smith. |