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1/11/2005 7:03:05 PM EDT
2  Questions-----What frame is a Smith and Wesson 686 With a 4 inch barrel?

Second is has anyone ever had a revolver with clean cylinders have spent shells get stuck in the cylinder?h=85%


Lost souls leave .308 holes
1/11/2005 7:05:15 PM EDT
[#1]
K Frame...don't know about the other question.

ETA:  Rabon and the others are totally right.  It's an L Frame.  Sorry for the misinformation.  That's what I get for trusting my memory.  
1/11/2005 7:10:43 PM EDT
[#2]
I think that would be an L frame and yes
1/11/2005 7:12:23 PM EDT
[#3]
ahhh crap is it a k or an L----what was that problem caused by?
1/11/2005 7:50:08 PM EDT
[#4]
It is an L.

Are you talking about factory rounds or reloads? Which caliber?
1/11/2005 9:14:37 PM EDT
[#5]
L-frame, K-frames are like the Model 66s, Model 19s etc
1/11/2005 10:30:17 PM EDT
[#6]
  I have a Smith&Wesson 686Plus (7-shot capacity; the 686 has a 6-shot capacity.)

  Mine has a 4-inch barrel. Most versatile length. 6 inch length is better if hunting will be a major use for the gun.

  The 686 is an L-frame, NOT a K-frame. L-frames are somewhat more sturdy than K-frames, have been specifically designed for a constant diet of .357 magnum rounds. K frames developed some problems- mainly cracks in the forcing cone - if hot 125 grain .357 loads were used extensively; hence S&W produced the L.

  No, I don't have any problem with spent shells sticking in the chambers.
 
1/12/2005 2:08:20 PM EDT
[#7]
The L frames are the replacement for the K frames, why you ask?  Well they thought is was a good idea.  Take a look at their starting lineup, more L frame models and less K frames....too bad, the K frames were very nice.  
1/12/2005 2:21:25 PM EDT
[#8]
Factory .357 mag rounds--the gun store is looking into the problem right now
1/12/2005 3:29:23 PM EDT
[#9]
"Get stuck" how exactly? A little stickiness is not all that unusual for a new gun with high-pressure loads, but severely stuck...as in having to pound the empties out...is not normal and should be dealt with by the factory. Even S&W can, and will, very ocassionally, build a lemon...but they will also make it right for you.
1/13/2005 6:08:54 PM EDT
[#10]
I mean stuck hard as in the us customs gunsmith that was at the range had to twist it out with his leatheman pliers----only 1 chamber though--really wierd>>......
1/14/2005 7:47:16 PM EDT
[#11]
Take a look at the extractor and see if it is leaving an area of the case unsupported by the rim.

If these loads are running a bit hot you may have the casing swelling a bit and sticking by the extractor.    Think of how a 38Super may blow out in a 1911 with an unsupported barrel...    Just a few thousandths off in the extractor and you could have the kind of difficulty extracting a shell if it expands just a tad while firing.


One of my 2 N-frame S&Ws will do this with near max loaded 125grn Blue Dot loads, I mean HOT!    I don't shoot these loads much because they play hell on my forcing cone and top straps.    But I have run into this problem and identified the culprit on the one gun, modest loads or any of the factory loads out there and I don't have a problem but the hot loads are certainly nasty as hell.


Anyhow, just something to consider or look for.
1/15/2005 6:16:35 AM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
The L frames are the replacement for the K frames, why you ask?  Well they thought is was a good idea.  Take a look at their starting lineup, more L frame models and less K frames....too bad, the K frames were very nice.  



The L frames were designed for heavier magnum usage than the K frames. But they were never intended to replace the K frame magnum. Thats why 25 years after the introduction of the L frame the K frames are still being manufactured.

S&W intends to drop the K frame magnum but thats really an economical issue. The Ks just don't sell as well as they used to.
1/15/2005 12:18:25 PM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:

Quoted:
The L frames are the replacement for the K frames, why you ask?  Well they thought is was a good idea.  Take a look at their starting lineup, more L frame models and less K frames....too bad, the K frames were very nice.  



The L frames were designed for heavier magnum usage than the K frames. But they were never intended to replace the K frame magnum. Thats why 25 years after the introduction of the L frame the K frames are still being manufactured.

S&W intends to drop the K frame magnum but thats really an economical issue. The Ks just don't sell as well as they used to.



Hence the L frames.  The K frames shoot just fine with .357 loads, thats why they were the staple of medium framed S&W revolvers for the past 25 years.
1/15/2005 7:15:13 PM EDT
[#14]
thanks for tall the help guys
1/24/2005 8:52:18 PM EDT
[#15]
You might have a smithy put a fine hone to the chamber to polish it.  I've had sticking problems with a Ruger and a nice polish job fixed it.