Posted: 1/1/2012 6:46:01 PM EDT
| Does anybody have any experience with these? Are the GTG? |
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Does anybody have any experience with these? Are the GTG? I had one a few years ago. After a trip to Taurus and a woff spring kit, I gave it away. The thing literally shot itself apart. I think in total I had under 200 rds through it. The trip to Taurus took 2 months to get back. Ill never buy another Taurus product for as long as I live. |
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I've had an 851 which is just the hammerless model since summer of '08. Took my CCW class with it and it's my BUG on my ankle every day. I shoot about 600 rnds a year out of it and it's been 100% since day one.
I have two Taurus revolvers and both have been problem free. The trick is to just learn what to look for when checking out a revolver and perform those tests before you buy. I'd do this on any brand before I bought, especially if i were buying used. Brad |
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I had a Taurus M85 UltraLite back when I was pissed at S&W and the whole Clinton deal thing.
I stopped at the range right after leaving the gunshop. Loaded it up, first shot, "bang", right where I was aiming. Went for #2, nothing. The trigger wouldn't move back. I opened the cylinder, closed it, "bang", then nothing. Trigger wouldn't move. I sent it back to Taurus under their "lifetime" warranty. The only thing "lifetime" about their warranty is how long it's going to take for them to make it right. They sent it back and it locked up after the first shot, again! I called them and they said to send it back. They wouldn't even pay shipping when they couldn't repair it. I asked them if they would replace it if they didn't repair it this time. They said the would "consider" replacement after they "attempted to repair it five or six times"! I would have been able to buy 2 new Taurus revolvers and have money left over paying that much overnight shipping. I sold it online, fully disclosing the problems, at a loss just to be rid of it. I was at my friend's shop years later. He's a nationally known gunsmith, and I saw a Taurus Model 85 there. I asked why he was working on a Taurus. He said he normally wouldn't but it was a favor for a friend who owns a gunshop. That Taurus had the same problem mine did, and it had already been back to Taurus 7 times! It took him about 10 minutes to fix it. It all comes down to Taurus not having anyone there who knows how to properly fit a revolver's internals. In the age of MIM and close tolerances, the skills of hand fitting guns together is rapidly becoming a thing of the past. If you get a Taurus that works, you won't have a problem until you shoot it loose. If you get one that is a problem, cut it up into little pieces and get rid of it. You'll lose less money than if you keep trying to send it back to Taurus for a "free" warranty repair. Spend the extra money and buy a used S&W or Ruger revolver. Since this has happened, I've passed on like new condition Taurus revolvers offered to me for $75 in private sales. They are nothing but total crap. |
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You only read horror stories on the web. I've had 6 Taurus revolvers since 1988, all have been great. I currently have an 85UL. I replaced the springs with a wollff kit, not because I doubted the factory springs would work, just because I wanted a smoother, lighter DA pull. It's been 100%. Taurus revolvers are fine. Don't sweat it.
"Shoot it to pieces"???? Come on, give it a rest. |
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I had a Taurus M85 UltraLite back when I was pissed at S&W and the whole Clinton deal thing. I stopped at the range right after leaving the gunshop. Loaded it up, first shot, "bang", right where I was aiming. Went for #2, nothing. The trigger wouldn't move back. I opened the cylinder, closed it, "bang", then nothing. Trigger wouldn't move. Ejector rod is bent, easy fix. Happens to SWs too, especially when handled a lot in the shop by ghetto goons. They try to close the cylinder when the ejector rod is unscrewed a bit (because ghetto goons don't know how to handle it, and gunshop workers don't care) and force it closed. More goons handle the taurus because it's within their price range. Not the gun's fault. |
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I had a Taurus M85 UltraLite back when I was pissed at S&W and the whole Clinton deal thing. I stopped at the range right after leaving the gunshop. Loaded it up, first shot, "bang", right where I was aiming. Went for #2, nothing. The trigger wouldn't move back. I opened the cylinder, closed it, "bang", then nothing. Trigger wouldn't move. Ejector rod is bent, easy fix. Happens to SWs too, especially when handled a lot in the shop by ghetto goons. They try to close the cylinder when the ejector rod is unscrewed a bit (because ghetto goons don't know how to handle it, and gunshop workers don't care) and force it closed. More goons handle the taurus because it's within their price range. Not the gun's fault. No, not a bent ejector rod. Read the rest of my post that you didn't quote and you'll see what the gunsmith found was the problem. If it was just a bent ejector rod, you would think that Taurus would have found that when I sent mine back, or the one that was sent back 7 times. I have a lot of DA Colt and S&W revolvers, about 30 of them now, and I know all about the ejector rod unscrewing itself. That was not the problem. The ejector rod moved very freely in the cylinder of the Taurus I had. Nope, not bent. It was the internals not fitted correctly. So, I would not call it the revolver's fault. It's Taurus' fault for putting out inferior guns that will someday get someone killed when they need a "bang" and get nothing but a trigger that won't move. The small amount of money you will save buying a Taurus isn't worth it, unless your life means that little to you. |
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I don't have experience with the model 85, but I've had a 2" model 605 (.357mag version of model 85) for about 4 years. Gun has over 2,000 rounds through it, with more than 1,000 of those being stout .357 mags. The cylinder has more side to side play when cocked than when it was new, to the point that I'll probably refrain from shooting too many .357's in it from now on. The trigger is smooth and predictable, but extremely heavy (I'd estimate the double action pull well over 12lbs). During extended shooting sessions at the range it'll lock up once in a while, can't pull the trigger at all without opening and re-closing the cylinder. I attribute this to extremely dirty factory ammo, it runs 100% when clean. I'll probably never get rid of my 605 just because it's my first revolver and it's fun to shoot, but it'll never get carried for personal defense again.
With all that said...now that S&W has gotten their J-frames down to realistic prices, I'll never buy another Taurus revolver. S&W and Ruger are getting my revolver money from now on. |
| I was looking at picking up a couple 82's that J&G is selling for $140. I was going to get them for "set it and forget it" guns that would be essentially disposable. The ones J&G has are well used from overseas police or military and are likely made before the MIM parts made their way into the revolvers. Worth it? Could anything be done to these revolvers to make them very reliable and durable to say throw in a tool box or be neglected for long periods? |