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2/9/2009 10:59:36 AM EDT
I heard the stories.  I heard the rumors.  I knew the risk.  I took the chance.  I bought a beautiful Kimber CDP II Pro.  

I marveled over the $1,000 masterpiece.  I showed it off to friends and family.  I bragged to those who hadn't seen it.

I was proud to pull it out at the gun range over the weekend.  I loaded the Wilson magazines carefully and skillfully.  6 in all w/ 230 grain FMJ's.  I slid the magazine in the extended well.  Cocked it.  Aimed....

Guess what?  Nothing.  I cycled another round.  BAM!  Right on target.  Then...  Click.  Nothing.  Another Round Cycled.  BAM!  Right on target.  Then...  Click.  Nothing.  So on and so on.

Yep, another famous Kimber Custom Shop POS.  

FTF, FTE, SP.

WTF?  Good thing I held off on purchasing that similar 3" model w/ CT.  I'm sure it would suck too!

Thanks for listening.

Regards,
~WC~
2/9/2009 12:00:21 PM EDT
[#1]
Welcome to the "Kimber Got Me" club. They were a great company once. Now the are just a great advertiser of 1911's. Nice color page ads in gun rags and crapola in a box.
2/9/2009 12:19:40 PM EDT
[#2]
I have 2 Kimbers a Custom II stainless and a TLE. My Good friend is a 1911 gunsmith and I had to swap out manuel labor for some Custom Work, Carry Job,Trigger and Throating jobs but my Kimbers run 100% even with very Shitty ammo. My point is I have not seen a Kimber that didn't need something done to it out of the box to get it to run 100%. My guy says for the Money the basic Kimber is a great gun for a Custom Starter piece..
2/9/2009 2:30:50 PM EDT
[#3]
Haveone and no issues.  Send it back and they will fix it.
2/9/2009 2:32:56 PM EDT
[#4]
I've got plenty of Kimbers, no problems out of any of them. Only issue is a loose ambi thumb safety after a 1000 round count class.
2/9/2009 2:34:27 PM EDT
[#5]
1 Kimber 0 problems
2/9/2009 3:00:04 PM EDT
[#6]
You can send it back but the chances of it coming back actually fixed are not good, at least in my experience.

Then again that's a pretty "in your face" issue so they might be able to actually fix that but who knows.
2/9/2009 7:49:10 PM EDT
[#7]
Sounds like the grip safety is releasing the trigger before it is releasing the Swartz safety, causing the FTF's. Send it back to Kimber, they will make it right. Or, you could send it to me. I'll trade you a plastic pistol for it.
2/10/2009 6:41:14 AM EDT
[#8]
Guys,

After an exhaustive search on Kimber Americas website, I am unable to find contact information (email or phone number) to their warranty group.  Any suggestions?

Thanks!
~WC~
2/10/2009 7:17:52 AM EDT
[#9]
(914) 964-0771 Ext: 350

http://www.kimberamerica.com/contact.php
2/10/2009 9:18:43 AM EDT
[#10]
Funny how their Customer Service Center is "experiencing a high volume of callers."  I left a message.  We'll see if they call back.

Re,
~WC~
2/10/2009 12:48:39 PM EDT
[#11]
hummmmmmmm?
skilfully loading a 8 round mag with 6 rounds

wow a gun that works 50% of the time

what was the ammo manufacturer they need trashed also because based on your post it could be them also

2/10/2009 2:23:32 PM EDT
[#12]
40-45,
Six Wilson Combat (47D) magazines were loaded.  NOT 6 rounds in an 8 round magazine.  Coincidently, the stock magazine only held 7 rounds...

Also, I was firing Federal Premium loads.


Everyone Else,
Kimber called back.  They are having UPS pick up the firearm sometime within the next 3 days.  I dropped it off at the dealer where purchased.

Thanks for your continued interest in this very uninteresting saga (that appearantly has been played out many, many times).

Re,
~WC~
2/10/2009 3:28:10 PM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
Haveone and no issues.  Send it back and they will fix it.


Weren't you having a problem with the slide locking back without feeding the last round, or did we determine that to be a mag related failure?
2/10/2009 5:48:50 PM EDT
[#14]
We didn't...

Re,
~WC~
2/10/2009 6:05:52 PM EDT
[#15]
The smaller 1911s don't like being limp wristed.

That being said, I'm not a kimber fan.
2/12/2009 3:58:11 PM EDT
[#16]
Sorry to hear about your issues. I only have one Kimber and its a stainless Ultra Carry II. Its been 100% reliable with all ball and HP,standard and +P ammo without doing a single thing to it using the stock mag and 2 Kimpro Tac mags. It even works with the garbage mag from my SA Mil spec. I keep it loaded with HST 230gr in either standard or +P.

Hopefully Kimber will make it right.
2/16/2009 7:06:03 PM EDT
[#17]
O NO!  This is the Gun Im going to buy Friday.  Ever since i have been researching the 1911's i have found out that you have to upgrade all sorts of parts to get them working good.  My Glock has never had a problem.
2/16/2009 7:46:08 PM EDT
[#18]
ALL weapons require a "break-in" period, in which the FTF's, FTE's and like ailments are worked out.

I purchased a Kimber Pro CDP II, and have 600+ rounds through it, and ALL FOUR (YES FOUR!) FTE's (that's "failure to eject") that I have experienced were during the use of the Kimber "stock" magazine that shipped with the gun.

I'm sort of apologetic for the fact that you spent too much money on Wilson Combat magazines. I'm sure they run flawlessly for all that own them, but there are many less-expensive alternatives that produce superb results, such as the 6 magazines I purchased at a gun show for $40 that have all run 75+ rounds without any failures of any kind.

Don't be so apt to judge Kimber because you're having many of the same issues that gun owners have with a brand new piece of equipment - take time, and a little patience, and do some research...

...and some of those "problems" will work themselves out, maybe with a little of your help, maybe with a little of someone else's help. It'll get better, that gun you bought is one of the best, hands down.

Congratulations on your purchase.
2/16/2009 7:49:31 PM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Haveone and no issues.  Send it back and they will fix it.


Weren't you having a problem with the slide locking back without feeding the last round, or did we determine that to be a mag related failure?


I love it when these things happen.

P.S. Doc, you missed an epic birdshot for home defense thread last week. It is sorta still going on, but it's mostly a bleeding carcass of the thread it once was.
2/17/2009 11:00:44 AM EDT
[#20]
AR-Eagle,

Thank you for your words of hope and optimism.  Right now, my CDP is at the Kimber Hospital.  Hopefully when I get it back, she'll be running in good condition.  My fingers are crossed!

Re,
~WC~
2/17/2009 1:12:48 PM EDT
[#21]
2 Kimbers no issues, in fact got a 10mm on order...
2/17/2009 2:12:09 PM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Haveone and no issues.  Send it back and they will fix it.


Weren't you having a problem with the slide locking back without feeding the last round, or did we determine that to be a mag related failure?


I love it when these things happen.

P.S. Doc, you missed an epic birdshot for home defense thread last week. It is sorta still going on, but it's mostly a bleeding carcass of the thread it once was.


Boo!
I missed a birdshot shooting at work last night on my day off.
Some dude capped another dude at bad breath distance with a cut down single shot 12 guage.
We are pretty sure it was 7 1/2 shot.
Anyway, the shootee threw his arm up to shield his face when he saw the shooter whip the shotgun out.
From what other officers told me, his forearm was shredded, but none of the pellets made it through to his face.
So, he's got a fucked up looking arm, but is other wise alright.
2/17/2009 2:15:19 PM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Haveone and no issues.  Send it back and they will fix it.


Weren't you having a problem with the slide locking back without feeding the last round, or did we determine that to be a mag related failure?


I love it when these things happen.

P.S. Doc, you missed an epic birdshot for home defense thread last week. It is sorta still going on, but it's mostly a bleeding carcass of the thread it once was.


Boo!
I missed a birdshot shooting at work last night on my day off.
Some dude capped another dude at bad breath distance with a cut down single shot 12 guage.
We are pretty sure it was 7 1/2 shot.
Anyway, the shootee threw his arm up to shield his face when he saw the shooter whip the shotgun out.
From what other officers told me, his forearm was shredded, but none of the pellets made it through to his face.
So, he's got a fucked up looking arm, but is other wise alright.


Nice! I'm gonna go post that in the birdshot thread and spice it up a little.
2/17/2009 3:00:21 PM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
I heard the stories.  I heard the rumors.  I knew the risk.  I took the chance.  I bought a beautiful Kimber CDP II Pro.  

I marveled over the $1,000 masterpiece.  I showed it off to friends and family.  I bragged to those who hadn't seen it.

I was proud to pull it out at the gun range over the weekend.  I loaded the Wilson magazines carefully and skillfully.  6 in all w/ 230 grain FMJ's.  I slid the magazine in the extended well.  Cocked it.  Aimed....

Guess what?  Nothing.  I cycled another round.  BAM!  Right on target.  Then...  Click.  Nothing.  Another Round Cycled.  BAM!  Right on target.  Then...  Click.  Nothing.  So on and so on.

Yep, another famous Kimber Custom Shop POS.  

FTF, FTE, SP.

I've got the KIMBER SIS CUSTOM RL
Dam I hate hear something like that happening
I know that sucks. I picked the SIS after some
research because it was designed for & with
the input help from the LAPD.

I knew it would have to be a great pistol because
of it's intended purpose. Anytime, anything is
designed for cops or military it gets a lot of extra
attention, detail, & testing so I knew it would be
a good decision for a 1911 purchase.

I am dam glad, I was correct & I hate to hear
that happened to you, cause I know if that
happened to me GOD DAM I would be pissed
& pissed is an understatement. That's the reason
I always buy (anything & everything) new so I will not have
problems & I sure that's why you did?

I would assume with our present political climate
there were a lot of rushed 1911's out the door
from all makers excluding High End Complete
custom 1911's. From my perception & probably
the firearm industry's in general figured the
amounts of sales would be better to rush & get
them in the store & repair them later instead
of losing this once in a life time opportunity for
mega revenue.




WTF?  Good thing I held off on purchasing that similar 3" model w/ CT.  I'm sure it would suck too!

Thanks for listening.

Regards,
~WC~


3/4/2009 1:25:03 PM EDT
[#25]
As you may remember, I posted early last month about a slew of initial problems I had w/ my Kimber CDP II Pro.  I spoke with customer service and they agreed to take a look at it.  I shipped it out on a Wednesday and I received a call back from Customer Service the following Friday.  Jay, the customer service rep, explained the hammer spring was shorter than it should be. thus causing the problems.  They exchanged the hammer spring, cleaned, greased, and polished my gun (including the barrel), and shipped it back to me, all in a week and a day.  After a week or so, they called to check in and see how it was firing and asked about my overall satisfaction of the process.

I have yet to have the time to take it to the range, but I plan to tomorrow.  

Re,
~WC~
3/4/2009 6:55:45 PM EDT
[#26]
Quoted:
As you may remember, I posted early last month about a slew of initial problems I had w/ my Kimber CDP II Pro.  I spoke with customer service and they agreed to take a look at it.  I shipped it out on a Wednesday and I received a call back from Customer Service the following Friday.  Jay, the customer service rep, explained the hammer spring was shorter than it should be. thus causing the problems.  They exchanged the hammer spring, cleaned, greased, and polished my gun (including the barrel), and shipped it back to me, all in a week and a day.  After a week or so, they called to check in and see how it was firing and asked about my overall satisfaction of the process.

I have yet to have the time to take it to the range, but I plan to tomorrow.  

Re,
~WC~


Well good deal.  I'd like to know how it runs now, when you get a chance to go to the range.  Hopefully they did in fact fix the problem, and that's all it was.  Sometimes we hear of Kimber goin' back and forth to the factory and never running right, and sometimes they're good to go when they come back.  Always interesting to find out.
3/4/2009 8:47:56 PM EDT
[#27]
I hope it works out for you I have a ProCarry II and I carry it every day I have never had one single issue with mine and I trust my life with it, but it will be replaced by my G19 soon
3/8/2009 12:20:17 AM EDT
[#28]
Oh, I failed to mention in my last post that Kimber Customer Service wanted to charge me $52.00 ($22.00 for the replacement spring and $30.00 for return shipping) to "repair" my CDP.  After a lengthy, slightly heated discussion, I convinced them to cover the charges.  I was extremely dissapointed that Kimber wanted ME to cover the cost of correcting their mistakes and poor workmanship on a BRAND NEW firearm.

Re,
~WC~
3/9/2009 12:18:04 PM EDT
[#29]
Wow it all sounded good till that last post. Glad t hear they covered it in the end. Make it to the range yet?
3/9/2009 6:22:26 PM EDT
[#30]
Yeah, a shame they tried to charge you like that, but glad they caved.  Still turned out well.

Hey Nmbr1GMfan, WELCOME TO ARFCOM!
3/9/2009 7:54:09 PM EDT
[#31]
Quoted:
Oh, I failed to mention in my last post that Kimber Customer Service wanted to charge me $52.00 ($22.00 for the replacement spring and $30.00 for return shipping) to "repair" my CDP.  After a lengthy, slightly heated discussion, I convinced them to cover the charges.  I was extremely dissapointed that Kimber wanted ME to cover the cost of correcting their mistakes and poor workmanship on a BRAND NEW firearm.

Re,
~WC~


That's a little odd, I would have definitely been pissed.