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4/27/2006 6:45:30 PM EDT
I am thinking of buying a Kimber Custom II or Royal.  I used to have a Springfield Champion in a Parkerized finish that was a P.O.S.  I would like to try the Milspec Operator but I am scared to go Springfield again.

I do alot of canoeing and camping and my springfield rusted after 2 hours of exposure to Summer Kentucky heat, humidity and water.  

Would a Kimber do the same thing?  I have a USP 9 that I know will take a beating and ask for seconds, but I would rather pack flying ashtrays.

4/27/2006 6:51:06 PM EDT
[#1]
1) All things made from steel will be subject to rust.
2) H&K makes a USP in .45.

Good luck!
4/27/2006 6:58:04 PM EDT
[#2]
For any future responses;

I know that steel can potentially rust and I have a full knowledge of the H&K product line.

I just wanted to know if Kimbers have any kind of a hostile finish or protection.  No gun should rust after 2 hours of being exposed.  Maybe after two days of camping there might be a spot or two that will rub off.  But my springfield was rust from top to bottom, all over.

Took a major cleaning and rub down to fix.
4/28/2006 5:02:01 AM EDT
[#3]
My Kimber has never had any rust, but I have not had it in the rain or mud.  The Kimpro finish is cheap and comes off pretty easily and I've got a few spots from wear showing, but they haven't rusted.  
4/28/2006 7:20:56 AM EDT
[#4]
None of my stainless Kimbers have rusted...

4/28/2006 4:51:15 PM EDT
[#5]
I dont have any idea why or what it is, but I have seen a lot of the barrels on Kimbers get rusty pretty quickly. I promise you, some of them come from straight from Kimber with a little rust on the barrel right out of the box. We have to really keep after them. The rest of the gun seem to be fine, this problem we see is limited to the barrels only. But it is an issue.
4/28/2006 5:21:51 PM EDT
[#6]
Mine rusted just from being in an airplane hold for three hours.
4/29/2006 4:49:07 AM EDT
[#7]
Is this something that everyone just accepts out of a 800.00 and up 1911.  I mean Kimbers are supposed to be of very high quality.  Do the warriors and TLE guns rust?  Aren't these used by the military and the LAPD?
4/29/2006 7:41:59 AM EDT
[#8]
Again, from what I have seen, it isnt the whole gun. Just the barrel. And yes to both questions, the Warrior and TLE barrels will rust as easily as the others, and we pretty much just deal with it by keeping an eye on them. I agree, I dont think they should be so prone to rust, but I dont see anyone at Kimber doing anything to change it after having heard about it. It didnt stop my or my GF from buying Warriors though.
4/29/2006 9:42:32 PM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
I dont have any idea why or what it is, but I have seen a lot of the barrels on Kimbers get rusty pretty quickly. I promise you, some of them come from straight from Kimber with a little rust on the barrel right out of the box. We have to really keep after them. The rest of the gun seem to be fine, this problem we see is limited to the barrels only. But it is an issue.



+1 I bought two TLE's a several months ago. I was so excited to find two brand new TLE's with IE, I bought them imediately. When i got home I noticed a large ammount of rust in the bores of both guns. I sent them back to Kimber and had them replaced at no charge. Haven't had any problems since.
4/30/2006 9:20:00 AM EDT
[#10]
only thing i've had rust on my  tle/rl II is the beavertail safety. just a little on the surface though after getting it back from kimber. cleaned it off and haven't had any other trouble since.
5/3/2006 4:11:42 AM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
None of my stainless Kimbers have rusted...




Mine did, Kimber Stainless Pro Carry 1, where the bbl hits the frame at the muzzle.

Then I thought "oh yeah, just the body is aluminum"

I polished it right up and now I keep a closer eye on it.
5/12/2006 12:06:02 PM EDT
[#12]
I have a TLE/RLII blued and havent had any issues with the frame and slide rusting.  On my barrel I have noticed a small amount of rust from time to time.  I've had the gun out in the rain, snow, heat and cold and the gun still runs with out issue.

My particular Kimber has been owned by several ARFCOM members and I'm sure if you ask them they will say the same.
5/12/2006 10:44:00 PM EDT
[#13]
I have a warrior and it has seen plenty of snow and rain here in Portland.  I shot it about 3 weeks ago and just took it apart to check for rust.  Was kinda worried after reading your post.  I'm happy to report that there was no rust and the barrel was clean as a whistle.
5/12/2006 11:07:16 PM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
Is this something that everyone just accepts out of a 800.00 and up 1911.  I mean Kimbers are supposed to be of very high quality.  Do the warriors and TLE guns rust?  Aren't these used by the military and the LAPD?




Metal rusts, no matter how much you pay for it, unless you're willing to pay more for a finish that resists rust.


OIL IT.
5/12/2006 11:29:11 PM EDT
[#15]
Lumpy, do they even have naturally occuring water in your AO?
5/12/2006 11:57:11 PM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:
Lumpy, do they even have naturally occuring water in your AO?




Not much on the ground, but it falls out of the sky a lot in the summer.
5/13/2006 8:05:11 AM EDT
[#17]
It's funny how some guns have rust problems.  Springfield XDs were notoriious for rusting on the slides, even in dry areas.  As mentioned above, Kimbers have barrel rust issues.  I've owned a NIB TLE, Warrior, and DET-1 pistol, and all three had rust on the hoods and end of the muzzle right out of the box.  

I recently refinished a Kimber Classic Custom, and when I bead blasted the barrel, I set itin a solvent tank for cleaning.  Aftewards, I laid it on the bench to dry while I put the rest of the gun together.  In the dry Phoenix heat, the barrel hood and muzzle end started to rust.  It was amazing.
5/13/2006 5:31:44 PM EDT
[#18]
Always has been and always will be a matter of carbon content in the steel.

People bitch about the same thing with SIGs.  The barrel hood on my P226, as well as my 90's production Browning MKIII all do the same thing if not properly maintained.
6/5/2006 4:55:46 AM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:
I have a TLE/RLII blued and havent had any issues with the frame and slide rusting.  On my barrel I have noticed a small amount of rust from time to time.  I've had the gun out in the rain, snow, heat and cold and the gun still runs with out issue.

My particular Kimber has been owned by several ARFCOM members and I'm sure if you ask them they will say the same.



mine rusts constantly,if i don't keep it WELL oiled. i'm thinking about getting it parkerized.
6/5/2006 5:24:09 AM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I have a TLE/RLII blued and havent had any issues with the frame and slide rusting.  On my barrel I have noticed a small amount of rust from time to time.  I've had the gun out in the rain, snow, heat and cold and the gun still runs with out issue.

My particular Kimber has been owned by several ARFCOM members and I'm sure if you ask them they will say the same.



mine rusts constantly,if i don't keep it WELL oiled. i'm thinking about getting it parkerized.



Yeah, I posted that before I started to carry it concealed.  Now that I've been carrying it I have noticed a bit of rust on the side of the slide, frame and thumb safety that is next to my undershirt.  But since I noticed the problem I just wipe it off real quick at the end of the day with a rag lightly coated with CLP.
6/5/2006 6:08:18 AM EDT
[#21]
When I was a Deputy I used to keep a rag soaked with clp in the glove box of my squad. They just need a little tlc.
6/5/2006 12:19:26 PM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:
Metal rusts, no matter how much you pay for it, unless you're willing to pay more for a finish that resists rust.


OIL IT.



So from the beginning of the thread to the end, we still have the fact that metal rusts.  Glad to see Lumpy and I are on the same page.  
6/5/2006 12:25:05 PM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:
I dont have any idea why or what it is, but I have seen a lot of the barrels on Kimbers get rusty pretty quickly. I promise you, some of them come from straight from Kimber with a little rust on the barrel right out of the box. We have to really keep after them. The rest of the gun seem to be fine, this problem we see is limited to the barrels only. But it is an issue.



Have the barrel hard chromed.
6/6/2006 11:45:38 AM EDT
[#24]
That would be a good idea if they were our guns. These are brand new guns that are for sale at a shop. I think the owners would probably drop the whole Kimber line before agreeing to have barrels of brand new gun sent off to be hard chromed...