Posted: 12/6/2009 1:46:48 PM EDT
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Stopped by the gun store a few days ago and saw that they had a used USP Compact 9mm for $550. Also came with 5 magazines. This price seem about right for a pistol in good shape?
Have an XDM40, but it is currently at my girlfriend's house for her use since I had to move for a job. Probably going to eventually sell the XDM as I just can't seem to get the hang of it. Anyone have an opinion of how the HK compares to the XDM? hoping the HK may possibly work better for me Only thing that concerns me about the USP compact is the size. Could really use a pistol that would not only be a good shooter, but also something I could conceal. Appreciate your help guys, Mike |
Hi Mike, So your considering that USP 9mm compact? Just so you know, the USP compact really isn't that all compact. I have a full size and a compact, and as you can see in the photos, the compact really isn't that much more concealable. No doubt that these USP's are shooters, but if you want concealability and in a HK, then your only other option is the P2000 SK, which is a subcompact. Just my 02 cents. 
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Hi Mike, So your considering that USP 9mm compact? Just so you know, the USP compact really isn't that all compact. I have a full size and a compact, and as you can see in the photos, the compact really isn't that much more concealable. No doubt that these USP's are shooters, but if you want concealability and in a HK, then your only other option is the P2000 SK, which is a subcompact. Just my 02 cents.
http://i45.tinypic.com/14jbv2u.jpg Sounds like you need to but a flat floorplate for that USPc! It sheds 3/8" off the height. And it appears that you are comparing the USPc 45 to a USP 40. So it will REALLY be closer in a size comparison. |
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Anyone have an opinion of how the HK compares to the XDM? The only real advantage the XDm has is in capacity. The USP will shoot much, much more accurate than the XDm. This isn't because of the trigger difference or the grip angle, it's because of the better quality of the bbl, IMO. $550 with those mags is a good deal, IMO. Every shooter is different for CCW, but you shouldn't have any issues hiding this gun. I would try both a pancake style belt holster (OWB) & a quality inside the waist (IWB) holster from someone like Galco. Keep in mind that a GOOD belt is going to be an absolute in any CCW outfit. IWB holsters will require pants be a size up from what you'd normally wear in order to be maximum effective. My .o2 |
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Sounds like you need to but a flat floorplate for that USPc! It sheds 3/8" off the height. And it appears that you are comparing the USPc 45 to a USP 40. So it will REALLY be closer in a size comparison. The flat floorplate for me doesn't give my little pinky the support it deserves.... who cares about 3/8" of concealability...when shooting accurately counts. Overall length: barrel length: weight/ with magazine: USP compact 9mm : 6.81 3.58 1.60 lbs USP compact .45 : 7.09 3.80 1.76 lbs info taken off the HK website. YMMV in concealability. |
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. Anyone have an opinion of how the HK compares to the XDM? hoping the HK may possibly work better for me Mike My LEO buddy just got a full size xd, the things rubbish, I shout 40 rounds though it and was sad inside, the trigger aren't that good there a bad knock of the glock trigger. The sights on the HKs are much better and easier to shoot, so are glock sights compared to xd's. |
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Sorry Mike for getting a little off track here....but I think that deal for a 9 USPc is a good one. I can't speak for XD's cause I never owned or shot one, but I can say is that my .45 acp USPc is so damm accurate. Having carried Colt and S&W wheel guns, and then the S&W 4006 in my career, The HK USPc is what I carry now and always.
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Sounds like you need to but a flat floorplate for that USPc! It sheds 3/8" off the height. And it appears that you are comparing the USPc 45 to a USP 40. So it will REALLY be closer in a size comparison. The flat floorplate for me doesn't give my little pinky the support it deserves.... who cares about 3/8" of concealability...when shooting accurately counts. Overall length: barrel length: weight/ with magazine: USP compact 9mm : 6.81 3.58 1.60 lbs USP compact .45 : 7.09 3.80 1.76 lbs info taken off the HK website. YMMV in concealability. Those dimensions don't sound like a lot, but they add up quick on a carry gun. There is no magic holster that will make the dimensions of the gun smaller. If you are a larger individual, you can get away with more. Some of us can't. If you can't shoot accurately with two fingers, you aren't trying hard enough. The best concealed carry gun is the one you always have with you, and being able to conceal it easier and more comfortably will make that happen. Smaller dimensions and lower weight make any gun easier to conceal. |
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My friend, we can't be all as good as maybe yourself shooting with two fingers...and believe me, I am trying hard enough when I'm shooting. I do agree that there is no magic holster that can conceal any and all handguns we chose to carry.
My point to Mike was just to inform him that USP compacts are slightly less than a full size. That's it. Take it for what it's worth. |
| Yes, that is a good deal if the pistol is in good condition and those are all factory full capacity mags. The USPc in 9mm / ,40 is very similar in size to the Glock 19 and just as easy...or difficult depending on your build and holster / clothing selections...to CCW. I own one as well as a G19 and a P2000 9mm. IMO the P2000 (full size) is the easiest of the three to conceal if I use the flat floorplate, and shoots about as well for me as the G19. The USPc, while slightly more bulky then the P2000 shoots better IMO. |
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My friend, we can't be all as good as maybe yourself shooting with two fingers...and believe me, I am trying hard enough when I'm shooting. Do you mean that you can't shoot "quickly" with two fingers, or do you really mean you can't shoot "accurately" with two fingers? And I gotta say, if the flat floorplate on the USPc 45 means that you don't have room for three fingers, you must have huge hands! 
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$550 for a USPC with 5 mags is a STEAL!!!!! 
Each mag is a minimum of $40............you do the math.
Get it RIGHT FUCKING NOW!!!!!! You can buy brand new mags from CDNN all day llong at $35 per. |
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Do you mean that you can't shoot "quickly" with two fingers, or do you really mean you can't shoot "accurately" with two fingers?
And I gotta say, if the flat floorplate on the USPc 45 means that you don't have room for three fingers, you must have huge hands! [/quote]
To My friend Maverick H1, I'm getting a clearer picture of you from your informative posts.....your the guy behind the gun counter telling us how much you know and that a certain gun is better than let's say the one we presently carry. You carry your weapon in your holster within the gun store...because you can't get a CCW. I'm gonna go on a limb here and say, you have post several thousand posts here on ARFCOM...but won't support the website that has helped an untold amount of shooters including myself of a new or different way to do things to maximize enjoying our favorite pastime. In order to continue our dialogue, I ask you to pony up $25 so that all can benefit on this website as well. Peace on you. |
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The grip length thing really comes down to hand size and body size.
I prefer the pinky extension but my hands are just small enough that I can keep my pinky on the grip if I'm not doing steady rapid fire and even if it slips below it wasn't the end of the world. However, I practiced a lot with mine, with both floor plates, which made a bigger difference with the flush one. Out of the box I was better with the extension, and if my jacket of the day made carry with the extension a non issue I'd have that one loaded and the other as the backup. If my hands were even slightly bigger than they are it would be a different story I think. It is definitely important to handle whichever version you're considering. It is NOT an insignificant change from the 9/40 compact to the 45, nor the full size to the compact. While the dimensions are closer than most full size to compact variations by other companies the feel is different enough that I wasn't happy with the 45 compact. The grip felt just a bit too big around to give me a solid hold, particularly with the stronger recoil of the 45. The compact is really just a mid sized gun, not a compact in the usual sense. I loved my 40 and plan to pick up a nine soon, I just can't decide if I should get the P30 instead. I didn't like the aesthetics of the HK45 and am more in the market for a 9mm this time, I've got enough 45's. 1098, just read through your posts in the other 40/45 thread related to this, glad you're still with us. Good shoot. Goes to show what good training and a cool head can do for you. |
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To My friend Maverick H1, I'm getting a clearer picture of you from your informative posts.....your the guy behind the gun counter telling us how much you know and that a certain gun is better than let's say the one we presently carry. You carry your weapon in your holster within the gun store...because you can't get a CCW. I'm gonna go on a limb here and say, you have post several thousand posts here on ARFCOM...but won't support the website that has helped an untold amount of shooters including myself of a new or different way to do things to maximize enjoying our favorite pastime. In order to continue our dialogue, I ask you to pony up $25 so that all can benefit on this website as well. Peace on you. Very rarely do I run into someone on these boards that makes such a jump in logic as you just did. Instead of answering any of the questions I posed, you jump to all kinds of conclusions about my tone of the post and the intentions of the posting. And then you try to attack my credibility based entirely on whether or not I buy it via Paypal by supporting this forum. For your information, there are a number of more important places in the world to spend $25 than on this forum. For example, my $25 this year for gun rights will go for me making a trip 6 hours in the January cold of VA on my motorcycle to be in Richmond on Lobby Day with our state wide gun rights organization. I try to help this website by giving good information to its users, if you believe it to be bad information then show me why it is so I won't make the mistake of repeating it. |
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$550 for a USPC with 5 mags is a STEAL!!!!!
Each mag is a minimum of $40............you do the math.
Get it RIGHT FUCKING NOW!!!!!! +1 if you have the extra cash! you will prob. NEVER find another deal like that! I bought my USP .45 for $ 575 (used of course) couldnt be happier! |