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Posted: 1/23/2006 12:05:07 PM EDT
Anything?
Link Posted: 1/23/2006 12:53:47 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Master_Blaster:
Anything?



Wait until mid-February as the SHOT show reports are coming in.
Link Posted: 1/23/2006 12:58:04 PM EDT
I've heard we'll be waiting until after the closing of the new SOCOM pistol solicitations.
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 9:01:12 AM EDT

Originally Posted By olds442tyguy:
I've heard we'll be waiting until after the closing of the new SOCOM pistol solicitations.




When is the closing?
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 8:17:59 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/26/2006 8:19:47 AM EDT by olds442tyguy]

Originally Posted By Bucky145:
When is the closing?



Check >HERE< for details. I've copied some of the text from >THIS< text document as well. So it looks like no one's sure when it will end, but it appears they will start getting down to business in March. How long the whole process will take, I don't think anyone knows for sure yet.



2. Block 8 of SF 1449 for the draft solicitation lists an offer due date of 30 November 2005. Will it be possible that the actual offer due date will be sooner than 30 November 2005?

Answer: Block 8 will be revised at time of actual issuance of the RFP to allow the proposal due date to be at least 60 days from issuance of RFP.

3. JCP Schedule: Can you please provide the schedule for JCP to include expected dates of: Final RFP Release, Proposal Response Deadline, Expected Contract Award Date. Projected First Delivery Order date and Quantities Funding.

Answer: Final RFP Release: Projected in January 2006
Proposal Response Deadline: Projected in March 2006
Expected Contract Award Date: Projected in 4Q FY06.
Projected First Delivery Order date and Quantities: The government will issue the first delivery order at time of award of the basic contract. Currently IDIQ minimum quantity is 12 each JCPs without external manual safety which will be awarded as the initial Delivery Order.



Link Posted: 1/26/2006 12:47:50 PM EDT

Originally Posted By olds442tyguy:

Originally Posted By Bucky145:
When is the closing?



Check >HERE< for details. I've copied some of the text from >THIS< text document as well. So it looks like no one's sure when it will end, but it appears they will start getting down to business in March. How long the whole process will take, I don't think anyone knows for sure yet.



2. Block 8 of SF 1449 for the draft solicitation lists an offer due date of 30 November 2005. Will it be possible that the actual offer due date will be sooner than 30 November 2005?

Answer: Block 8 will be revised at time of actual issuance of the RFP to allow the proposal due date to be at least 60 days from issuance of RFP.

3. JCP Schedule: Can you please provide the schedule for JCP to include expected dates of: Final RFP Release, Proposal Response Deadline, Expected Contract Award Date. Projected First Delivery Order date and Quantities Funding.

Answer: Final RFP Release: Projected in January 2006
Proposal Response Deadline: Projected in March 2006
Expected Contract Award Date: Projected in 4Q FY06.
Projected First Delivery Order date and Quantities: The government will issue the first delivery order at time of award of the basic contract. Currently IDIQ minimum quantity is 12 each JCPs without external manual safety which will be awarded as the initial Delivery Order.




wow, so they are supposed to be choosing their new sidearm by the end of the year? They sure are pretty quiet about it
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 5:21:20 PM EDT

The Combat Pistol System consists of: a Caliber .45 pistol and its ancillary equipment including: Magazines (standard and high-capacity); Suppressor Attachment Kit for operation of the pistol with and without sound suppressor;...


Sounds like a HK45 'Tactical' to me.
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 5:31:17 PM EDT
did that say no external safety? WTF
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 6:52:40 PM EDT
the military doesn't use a safety anyhow, at least the USAF didn't. The M9 has a safety, but SOP is that it is only used as a decocker, the pistol is carried on fire with a round in the chamber.
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 7:17:03 AM EDT
Taken from the synopsis found >HERE<. Look on the 11th line in the large requirement and feature paragraph.


The estimated Maximum quantities are: 45,000 no external safety JCP configuration and 600,000 JCP with the external safety configuration.


This shows that they are more interested in pistols with safeties, but I'm still confused as they must have had a typo. The requirements involve 12 pistols with a safety and twelve pistols with no safety for the initial testing. Notice it says 12 each, so my guess is they didn't write exactly what they were supposed to.
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 8:37:16 PM EDT
thanks. im happy if its got an ambi safety and slide lock, threaded barrel, in a compact version (silent decocker would be nice too). most army installations have special SOPs about sidearms, which i will not discuss. only weapons that should be carried on fire are open bolt fired machine guns.
Link Posted: 2/4/2006 8:35:47 AM EDT
I just found out that HK will not releasing the HK45 at SHOT.
Link Posted: 2/4/2006 4:02:00 PM EDT
figured that. something about a new socom or something first?
Link Posted: 2/5/2006 3:39:09 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Va_Dinger:
I just found out that HK will not releasing the HK45 at SHOT.



whats new, HK cares about the public buyer as much as Colt does, they only want the big contracts.
Link Posted: 2/5/2006 8:28:09 PM EDT

Originally Posted By VTwin60:

Originally Posted By Va_Dinger:
I just found out that HK will not releasing the HK45 at SHOT.



whats new, HK cares about the public buyer as much as Colt does, they only want the big contracts.



Or maybe its not ready?
Link Posted: 2/6/2006 5:07:31 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Va_Dinger:
I just found out that HK will not releasing the HK45 at SHOT.

Very disappointing news.
Link Posted: 2/10/2006 4:11:29 PM EDT

Well that sucks...


Bigfeet
Link Posted: 2/11/2006 9:05:06 AM EDT
HK does have the HK45 and HK45 Compact at SHOT, as well as the 417. They aren't out for public viewing and picture taking is prohibited. HK PDX of HKPro got to toy around with them and he sounded pretty enthused.
Link Posted: 2/11/2006 9:37:53 AM EDT

Originally Posted By olds442tyguy:
HK does have the HK45 and HK45 Compact at SHOT, as well as the 417. They aren't out for public viewing and picture taking is prohibited. HK PDX of HKPro got to toy around with them and he sounded pretty enthused.



Thats a step in the right direction, but it still falls short of the release.

I look forward to hearing some details and eventually the photos.
Link Posted: 2/21/2006 1:51:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/21/2006 1:52:17 PM EDT by Va_Dinger]
I was just told today that it will not be released until the 2007 SHOT show in Orlando. Several magazines have gotten access to it, so expect to see a few articles with detailed photos of the production models soon.
Link Posted: 2/21/2006 5:00:27 PM EDT
thanks for the info. ill be saving up. hopefully they have a threaded barrel version.
Link Posted: 2/22/2006 8:11:17 AM EDT
What is this HK45 and wher can I read about it??
Link Posted: 2/22/2006 4:36:46 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Goback:
What is this HK45 and wher can I read about it??



10-8 Forums has a great thread.

Plus several magazine articles will be coming out shortly.
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 5:00:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/24/2006 2:22:00 PM EDT by CitySlicker]
http://www.10-8forums.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=otherguns&Number=12339&page=0&fpart=all

Discussions can be found at LightFighter.net as well.

Edited to remove hot link.
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 4:53:59 AM EDT

Originally Posted By CitySlicker:
www.10-8forums.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=otherguns&Number=12339&page=0&fpart=all

Discussions cen be found at LightFighter.net as well.



I would remove the link.

10-8 does not allow active links.

Hilton will get mad.
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 2:20:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/26/2006 6:48:29 AM EDT by CitySlicker]

Originally Posted By Va_Dinger:

Originally Posted By CitySlicker:
http://www.10-8forums.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=otherguns&Number=12339&page=0&fpart=all

Discussions cen be found at LightFighter.net as well.



I would remove the link.

10-8 does not allow active links.

Hilton will get mad.



All right...thanks for the catch.

Edited to remove active link.
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 2:45:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/24/2006 2:46:27 PM EDT by Gregory_K]
lol because of the thread quote you both still hav it linked.

tbh I thought hot linking would be me posting pics from there server with out permission. hence stealing there BW

WHAT IS HOTLINKING AND BANDWIDTH THEFT?
Bandwidth theft or "hotlinking" is direct linking to a website's files (images, video, etc.). An example would be using an <IMG> tag to display a JPEG image you found on someone else's web page so it will appear on your own site, journal, weblog, forum posting, etc.

Bandwidth refers to the amount of data transferred from a website to a user's computer. When you view a webpage, you are using that site's data transfer to display the files. Since web hosts charge based on the amount of data transferred, bandwidth is an issue. If a site is over it's monthly bandwidth, it's billed for the extra data or taken offline.

A simple analogy for bandwidth theft: Imagine a random stranger plugging into your electrical outlets, using your electricity without your consent, and you paying for it.
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 6:40:46 PM EDT
What's wrong with the USP .45?
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 6:56:21 AM EDT
If it fits your hand, nothing. IF Uncle is looking for a replacment for the M9, He may have somethign in the spec for an adjustable grip. M9 has the same problem with smaller hands.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 12:13:50 PM EDT
+1. I hope they come up with something like the USP45compact tactical size but with the p2000 ergonomics.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 4:09:32 PM EDT
I hear that it will be more like the tactical. No proprietary light rail. And cheaper than the MK23 for sure. Price may be around $1100 or less.

I hope that they still offer match trigger, bbl, and large trig guard. They also need to have tritium sights in yellow. That would be good.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 5:23:58 PM EDT

Originally Posted By JoseyWales:
I hear that it will be more like the tactical. No proprietary light rail. And cheaper than the MK23 for sure. Price may be around $1100 or less.

I hope that they still offer match trigger, bbl, and large trig guard. They also need to have tritium sights in yellow. That would be good.



You can count on this pistol having a light rail.

It's being designed with the help of Larry Vickers & Ken Hackathorn. It's suppose to a 1911 "Replacement" for large units using the 1911A1. Think of it as a USP with 1911 controls & ergonomics.

I'm interested, but the trigger will made it or break for me.
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