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3/26/2005 8:10:51 PM EDT
Has anybody had any good luck with SOB holsters for the USPc 40 and the USP Tactical?  I was even thinking about geting a IWB Left hand holster (Blade-Tec) and just sliding it to my back but still drawing with my right hand.  Any help would be great.
3/26/2005 8:14:00 PM EDT
[#1]
SOB holsters....a recipe for a spinal injury.
3/26/2005 8:21:18 PM EDT
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SOB holsters....a recipe for a spinal injury.



+1

Besides, are you going for the Magnum PI draw style with the grip facing the wrong way?
3/26/2005 8:22:06 PM EDT
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SOB holsters....a recipe for a spinal injury.



How so or why, I have no information on SOBs but that I like the no printing aspect.
3/26/2005 8:24:13 PM EDT
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Besides, are you going for the Magnum PI draw style with the grip facing the wrong way?



I can't twist my wrist very well so "the wrong way" feels more comfy
3/26/2005 8:43:54 PM EDT
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SOB holsters....a recipe for a spinal injury.



Jeeeze. Here we go again. Hey Lumpy, you speaking from experience here? How is that broken back now? All healed up?

This gets covered every few months. Want me to post my last response?

I've carried a 1911 and a G27 on and off this way for about 15 years now. Never even experienced a stubbed toe, let alone a spinal cord injury. Quit spewing BS unless you got facts to back it up, please.

My fact is that I do this all the time and never have had an injury. Besides, my body has an inset where my spine curves in and I have natural depression there. Unless you are extremely overwieght, you should have one as well. Even if you fall flat on your back (I don't have this tendency, I can keep my balance) this depression should give you enough of a releif that it shouldn't be a problem.

This crap sounds like a line right out of the AMA and the Brady Bunch catalog.
3/26/2005 8:56:48 PM EDT
[#6]
Here's one of the best around. It's what I have, although I carried my USP's in shoulder rig and a G-27 in the SOB rig.

www.gunaccessories.com/Galco/SOBSmallofBackHolster.asp

They make one for the USP series, including the 45. BTW, a compact model will fit in a full sized holster, usually.

There are other companies out there. I think Kramer makes one, as well as Alessi.

Try not to break your back.... I don't mean by carrying your gun, I mean doing other things.

Cheers to all.
3/26/2005 9:04:57 PM EDT
[#7]
An officer from the academy class before mine fell and landed on her back with her handcuff pouch on her duty belt in the small of her back. She's walking again, but not very well.

Any pistol is easily twice as thick as a pair of handcuffs. Don't count on that natural curve to absorb anything. Bones and spinal cord will compress or break before steel and polymer will.
3/26/2005 10:16:24 PM EDT
[#8]
Wombat,

I agree that there is a chance it could happen. However, there is a chance I could choke on food I eat every day. There is a chance I could get killed in a car accident. There is a chance I could get a broken back from falling down the stairs I climb every day. I still eat, go up stairs and drive my car. I'd say there is a bigger chance I'd get killed in a car accident than breaking my back on my gun, probably 10-1.

Hell, I did a pseudo-slide chasing after shoplifter on wet pavement and did hit my back, but I caught his legs and tripped him. He reversed on me and I was wearing my Magnum boots and it was very wet out. I did hit my back but it didn't break it. We got the kid, btw. Oh yeah, I had my cuffs back there as well.

I got a worse back injury on a jump at Hunter Army Air Field. Caught a down draft and got slammed into the ground nearly sideways. Man, I hate that.

I think if there are so many issues with SOB carry, the consumer product safety administration would sue the crap out of the holster companies and goodbye SOB holsters. Heck, some chick spilled coffee on herself and I still hear about that.


No offense, Lumpy. I'm just poking at you with a stick - in a friendly manner, of course....
3/26/2005 10:26:42 PM EDT
[#9]
Sure I could choke on lunch, but I lessen the chances by chewing the food well...sure I could get in a car wreck, that's why I wear my seat belt and watch other drivers' actions...I know shit happens, and it's never a guarantee either way, but I choose to lessen the chances of a back injury by not putting solid steel directly over my spine.

Many people find it a comfortable way to carry and I'm not saying they're definitely going to end up paralyzed. But this guy is still trying to choose a holster style, so it may not have occured to him that it was a possibility...just something to keep in the back of his mind when choosing a carry rig. Some people might say an open top IWB holster is begging for a gun grab and would suggest a thumb break. I know that's a possibility, but I've taken that into account settling on my preferred method of carry.
3/27/2005 2:01:45 PM EDT
[#10]
I don't carry SOB for weapon retention purposes.   I don't feel like I could effectively fend off a gun grab there.  Sure, they shouldn't know I'm carrying, but if my shirt rides up and I'm carrying SOB I might be the only guy in the parking lot who doesn't know I'm showing my gun.

I think a lot of people who say SOB is a spinal risk are probably onto something, but are overstating the risk.  It could happen, but it's probably unlikely unless I'm a LEO and likely to be in scuffles all the time.
3/27/2005 2:05:17 PM EDT
[#11]
ORinTX -
What do you use then a IWB? and what brand?
3/27/2005 6:57:13 PM EDT
[#12]
Primarily I use a Milt Sparks VM-2.  I highly recommend it.  It's very comfortable and of extremely high quality.  The wait for their gear is worth it.

I carry a P2000 in it.

ETA: The VM-2 is an IWB. www.miltsparks.com