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10/18/2006 9:40:49 PM EDT
Im looking into getting a Gold Cup as my first Colt and have a few questions about them.  I want the gun basically just for casual shooting and because I dont own a 1911.

1.  Are any of the different series' better than others and if so, which series are the more desired?

2.  Is 45ACP and 10MM the only two calibers the Gold Cup comes in?

3.  Anything else I need to know about the Gold Cup pistols?

Ive shot a few magazines through the one my dad has, but other than that, I dont know much about them, or even 1911s as my only handguns are a 96 Beretta, 220 Sig, and V-10 XD.

Many Thanks!
10/19/2006 2:05:31 AM EDT
[#1]

Quoted:
Im looking into getting a Gold Cup as my first Colt and have a few questions about them.  I want the gun basically just for casual shooting and because I dont own a 1911.

1.  Are any of the different series' better than others and if so, which series are the more desired?

2.  Is 45ACP and 10MM the only two calibers the Gold Cup comes in?

3.  Anything else I need to know about the Gold Cup pistols?

Ive shot a few magazines through the one my dad has, but other than that, I dont know much about them, or even 1911s as my only handguns are a 96 Beretta, 220 Sig, and V-10 XD.

Many Thanks!


Go here: Colt Gold Cup

Go here: M1911.org
1.Register.
2.Do a "Search" for "Colt Gold Cup"
3.Learn
10/19/2006 3:58:00 AM EDT
[#2]
An original Series 70 is the way to go, still somewhat easy to find, none of that Serie's 80 safety crap on them.

I love mine

Only weakness is the roll pin for the rear Elison sight wants to walk out, just bend it and tap it back in.

Oh yeah, make sure you get a standard weight recoil spring for it if shooting standard power loads.  The factory spring is lighter than the stock government model.

10/19/2006 12:09:16 PM EDT
[#3]
"make sure you get a standard weight recoil spring for it if shooting standard power loads. The factory spring is lighter than the stock government model"

No it's not.  SOME Gold Cups came with an extra, lighter spring for use with light "Mid-range" target loads.

The standard spring installed in the .45 caliber Gold Cup by the factory is the exact same spring used on the .45 caliber Government Model, with the same stock number.
It's a 32 coil spring, Colt stock number SP50204.


10/19/2006 12:19:57 PM EDT
[#4]

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"make sure you get a standard weight recoil spring for it if shooting standard power loads. The factory spring is lighter than the stock government model"

No it's not.  SOME Gold Cups came with an extra, lighter spring for use with light "Mid-range" target loads.

The standard spring installed in the .45 caliber Gold Cup by the factory is the exact same spring used on the .45 caliber Government Model, with the same stock number.
It's a 32 coil spring, Colt stock number SP50204.




Mine must have been replaced then, I bought it slightly used and it was definately lighter
10/19/2006 12:33:56 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
"make sure you get a standard weight recoil spring for it if shooting standard power loads. The factory spring is lighter than the stock government model"

No it's not.  SOME Gold Cups came with an extra, lighter spring for use with light "Mid-range" target loads.

The standard spring installed in the .45 caliber Gold Cup by the factory is the exact same spring used on the .45 caliber Government Model, with the same stock number.
It's a 32 coil spring, Colt stock number SP50204.




I take back my previous statement, mine came the lighter spring from the factory, part number SP50238  per www.coltsmfg.com/cmci/a4c6a_pricelist.asp#RecoilSpring
10/19/2006 1:28:52 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Im looking into getting a Gold Cup as my first Colt and have a few questions about them.  I want the gun basically just for casual shooting and because I dont own a 1911.

1.  Are any of the different series' better than others and if so, which series are the more desired?

2.  Is 45ACP and 10MM the only two calibers the Gold Cup comes in?

3.  Anything else I need to know about the Gold Cup pistols?

Ive shot a few magazines through the one my dad has, but other than that, I dont know much about them, or even 1911s as my only handguns are a 96 Beretta, 220 Sig, and V-10 XD.

Many Thanks!


Go here: Colt Gold Cup

Go here: M1991.org
1.Register.
2.Do a "Search" for "Colt Gold Cup"
3.Learn


Not really what I was looking for.  I dont want to register on a bunch of differnt sites, I only wanted to know 3 things.  I looked at the two sites you linked me to, but still Im just running in circles.  So, someone else that has a few minutes to spare, please fill me in.  Thanks.
10/19/2006 1:29:43 PM EDT
[#7]
I've never seen a Gold Cup with standard weight springs, not to say that they're not out there. But neither my National Match nor my Ser 70 Gold Cup had them.

Further I'd recommend that you insure you have a 23lb hammerspring as many Gold Cups came with 19lb mainsprings.
10/19/2006 1:52:54 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
Im looking into getting a Gold Cup as my first Colt and have a few questions about them.  I want the gun basically just for casual shooting and because I dont own a 1911.

1.  Are any of the different series' better than others and if so, which series are the more desired?


Yes, the Series 70 (without firing pin block) and the series 80 (with firing pin block). The series 80 has been around long enough to disprove that it is an inferior design.


2.  Is 45ACP and 10MM the only two calibers the Gold Cup comes in?


I believe they also came in .38 special


3.  Anything else I need to know about the Gold Cup pistols?


The .45acp Gold Cups National Match pistols have a lightened slide and reduced weight recoil and hammer springs. I personaly use a Wolf 20lb variable rate recoil spring and a 23lb hammer spring in mine to compensate as I use full power ammo in them.

The Gold Cup Trophy models I beleive come with full wieght springs although I do not know if the slide has been lightened or not. The Blue Steel Gold Cup Troph has the Ellison rear sight while the Stainles Gold Cup Trophy has the Bomar rear sight.

Gold Cup Trophy with Ellison rear sight


Gold Cup Bright Stainless Series 80 National Match Ellison rear sight


Gold Cup Series 70 with Ellison rear sight


Gold Cup Trophy (series 80) with Bomar sights


The 10mm Gold Cups to my knowlege are ment to handle full power loads.

The .38 special National Match (pre Gold Cups) are ment to fire semi wadcutter ammuntion.


Ive shot a few magazines through the one my dad has, but other than that, I dont know much about them, or even 1911s as my only handguns are a 96 Beretta, 220 Sig, and V-10 XD.

Many Thanks!


Where I you I'd most likely go with a Stainless Gold Cup Trophy
10/19/2006 4:07:00 PM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Im looking into getting a Gold Cup as my first Colt and have a few questions about them.  I want the gun basically just for casual shooting and because I dont own a 1911.

1.  Are any of the different series' better than others and if so, which series are the more desired?

2.  Is 45ACP and 10MM the only two calibers the Gold Cup comes in?

3.  Anything else I need to know about the Gold Cup pistols?

Ive shot a few magazines through the one my dad has, but other than that, I dont know much about them, or even 1911s as my only handguns are a 96 Beretta, 220 Sig, and V-10 XD.

Many Thanks!


Go here: Colt Gold Cup

Go here: M1991.org
1.Register.
2.Do a "Search" for "Colt Gold Cup"
3.Learn


Not really what I was looking for.  I dont want to register on a bunch of differnt sites, I only wanted to know 3 things.  I looked at the two sites you linked me to, but still Im just running in circles.  So, someone else that has a few minutes to spare, please fill me in.  Thanks.


No problem. If you can't get what you want from those sites then I can't help you.
10/31/2006 8:23:42 AM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Im looking into getting a Gold Cup as my first Colt and have a few questions about them.  I want the gun basically just for casual shooting and because I dont own a 1911.

1.  Are any of the different series' better than others and if so, which series are the more desired?


Yes, the Series 70 (without firing pin block) and the series 80 (with firing pin block). The series 80 has been around long enough to disprove that it is an inferior design.


2.  Is 45ACP and 10MM the only two calibers the Gold Cup comes in?


I believe they also came in .38 special


3.  Anything else I need to know about the Gold Cup pistols?


The .45acp Gold Cups National Match pistols have a lightened slide and reduced weight recoil and hammer springs. I personaly use a Wolf 20lb variable rate recoil spring and a 23lb hammer spring in mine to compensate as I use full power ammo in them.

The Gold Cup Trophy models I beleive come with full wieght springs although I do not know if the slide has been lightened or not. The Blue Steel Gold Cup Troph has the Ellison rear sight while the Stainles Gold Cup Trophy has the Bomar rear sight.

Gold Cup Trophy with Ellison rear sight
nas4.atlanta.gbhinc.com/GB/058785000/58785225/pix1170842329.jpg

Gold Cup Bright Stainless Series 80 National Match Ellison rear sight
nas4.atlanta.gbhinc.com/GB/058566000/58566038/pix909123844.jpg

Gold Cup Series 70 with Ellison rear sight
nas4.atlanta.gbhinc.com/GB/058671000/58671241/pix1053868579.jpg

Gold Cup Trophy (series 80) with Bomar sights
nas4.atlanta.gbhinc.com/GB/058694000/58694162/pix1069148360.jpg

The 10mm Gold Cups to my knowlege are ment to handle full power loads.

The .38 special National Match (pre Gold Cups) are ment to fire semi wadcutter ammuntion.


Ive shot a few magazines through the one my dad has, but other than that, I dont know much about them, or even 1911s as my only handguns are a 96 Beretta, 220 Sig, and V-10 XD.

Many Thanks!


Where I you I'd most likely go with a Stainless Gold Cup Trophy


38 special or 38 super?  
11/1/2006 8:25:44 PM EDT
[#12]
The series 70 is more desired but if your not planning on selling it don't worry about it. I don't really think that being a series 80 makes it less of  gun.I have two gold cups and the only downside I know of.Is its a love hate thing gunsmiths like them but hate to work on them the last gold cup I got was a headache and a half. I love it but it cost a little to get were it is if I were you I would get a new one because for some reason people like to tinker with gold cups. The one I got was used and somebody messed with something and the hammer would follow the slide with no magazine. I know what your thinkin sear no. I sat there for about 6 hours while a gunsmith replaced damn near everything on the gun see what the hell in the end it was the heavy steel trigger it was what he called trigger bounce.Put an aluminum trigger in and good as new 2 and a half pounds. But anyway there good guns but I would by a new one you could probly get a new stainless for close to a thousand. As far as the recoil spring fuck it I would just replace it no matter what how much is a spring 6 bucks. Just my opinion.