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12/17/2004 2:40:47 PM EDT
I have a 1911A1 civilian model made in 1917 that has been a great shooter for several years.

Today at the range, I experienced several FTE's, about 7 out of 100 rounds.  They all happened about the same way.  The spent casing would come out of the barrel, and then jam as the slide tried to feed the next round.  Like they were bring ejected, but not flying out of the gun.

I have no idea of the age of any of the parts, it may be all original.  Inspection of the extractor seems normal.  The lip is not as thick as my new commander, but the edge seems like its in great shape.  I was shooting WWB FMJ ammo, and the pistol was clean.

Any thoughts?  Weak extractor?

Thanks in advance.
-Greg
12/17/2004 4:49:24 PM EDT
[#1]
Sounds like your extractor but don't overlook your ejector either. Take your slide off & do the empty case trick & see if it's held in place. Could be it's just a bit out of adjustment rather than worn out.

As an aside, when's the last time you changed the recoil spring as well?
12/17/2004 7:11:08 PM EDT
[#2]

Quoted:
Sounds like your extractor but don't overlook your ejector either. Take your slide off & do the empty case trick & see if it's held in place. Could be it's just a bit out of adjustment rather than worn out.

As an aside, when's the last time you changed the recoil spring as well?



+1
12/19/2004 10:54:07 AM EDT
[#3]
Thanks for the help.

As far as I know, the recoil spring and every other part may be original.

Two questions?

How would a week recoil spring affect ejection/extraction?

What is the "Empty case trick"?

Thanks again.
-Greg
12/19/2004 10:59:31 AM EDT
[#4]
Clean and tune the extractor, if that don't work you may also have to fit a new one.  If so get a park'd Wilson Combat 'bullet proof' one.
Extractor tuning instructions
12/19/2004 2:21:10 PM EDT
[#5]
A weak recoil spring will affect slide speed & thus having a play in the normal slide speed operation. Too fast slide speed won't allow proper ejection time frame, IMO.

As for the extractor test, remove the slide & insert an empty case under the extractor on the slide face. A properly tuned extractor will hold the empty case against the breech face of the slide, i.e. where the firing pin comes out to hit the primer.

If the case falls away, then the extractor doesn't have enough tension & needs to be properly set.

Hope this helps!
12/23/2004 3:22:56 AM EDT
[#6]
GregD, any progress made on your gun?  Here's another excellent link to extractor adjustments, this one by Jack Weigand.

www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/GunTech/NewsletterArchive.aspx?p=0&t=1&i=33


12/24/2004 5:55:07 PM EDT
[#7]
Thanks again for the help.  

Sorry,  I have not have a chance to really look at it yet with work and the holidays.  I did the Empty Case trick, and the extractor did hold the shell, but it wasn"t totally flush with the face.

As soon as I get a chance, I will get a new recoil spring, and pull the extractor out.

Merry Christmas!

-Greg
12/25/2004 1:52:54 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
Thanks again for the help.  

Sorry,  I have not have a chance to really look at it yet with work and the holidays.  I did the Empty Case trick, and the extractor did hold the shell, but it wasn"t totally flush with the face.

As soon as I get a chance, I will get a new recoil spring, and pull the extractor out.

Merry Christmas!

-Greg



E-mail sent on some ideas....
12/25/2004 1:58:01 PM EDT
[#9]
+1 on everything that Bob said!!!


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