Posted: 11/29/2009 9:15:28 PM EDT
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I have a question as to the quality of the PP imported by Interarms in the early 80's in 22 long rifle...does it compare with the earlier ones in quality and accuracy? What is a fair price for one in 99% with box, extra mag and grips?
Thanks, Bimmer |
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All post war PP series in .22lr were actually produced in France by Manurhin, regardless of what is engraved on the slide.
This is not a reason to pass on one, just something that few seem to recognize when this discussion comes up. I have a 1969 dated Walther marked PP in .22 that works great, trigger is a bit stiff in double action but single is fine. I also have a later Walther marked PPK/S in .22lr that will have missfires with some brands of ammo. The earlier prewar guns are more of a collectors item, and the price you will see them at usually reflects that. In my opinion, and I have been looking at these for quite a while, a pistol such as what you have described will usually be seen with an asking price around $800-$1000 these days. If you can buy one for $600 it is not a bad deal. As far as quality is concerned, and this is only my opinion, the earlier guns are better for the post war PP series. |
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From 1949 until 1987 ALL Walther PP, PPK, PPK/S pistols were actually manufactured by Manurhin in France.
Those sold in the US marked Made in West Germany were actually made in France, assembled, test fired, diassembled into component parts, shipped 60 kilometers to the Walther Plant, reassembled and proof fired again under German laws so they could legally have the made in Germany mark. Interesting isn't it? Anyway, the French made pistols are every bit as good as pre-war Walthers and in some ways better as they incorporated design improvements as they were made available by Walther. I own a 1960 era Manurhin made and marked PP in .22LR and it is in every sense equal to pre WW2 Walther manufacture. 
.22s tend to bring a bit more money than .380s or .32s because they are much less common and Walther marked pistols bring more money than Manurhin marked examples. I would think a range of $750-$850US retail would be a fair price for a pistol in the condition you describe |
I do not completely agree that the post war Walther PP and PPk guns are as good as the pre-war examples. I have a very early 90 degree safety PP made in ZM and find it even better made than the post war PPs. I have a 1956 PP Sport and have seen many .22 PPs as they are quite common guns in my native country; Germany.
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I should have said that .22 PPs and PPKs are not that common in the USA
They were always very expensive here compared to other pistols such as the Colt Huntsman and Ruger standard autos. I know that the .22 or 5.25mm PP was always very popular in Germany as a sport, target, and competition pistol. My 1929 made Walther PP in 7.65mm caliber is nice but it certainly isn't any nicer in fit, finish, or accuracy than my French made .22 |
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I do not completely agree that the post war Walther PP and PPk guns are as good as the pre-war examples. I have a very early 90 degree safety PP made in ZM and find it even better made than the post war PPs. I have a 1956 PP Sport and have seen many .22 PPs as they are quite common guns in my native country; Germany. http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z159/Andyd173/PPs005.jpg Nice Walthers! It appears in the photo that your Zella Mehlis .22 has a front sight that is different in profile from what is usually seen, more like a patridge sight. |