Posted: 7/24/2009 7:22:17 AM EDT
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Do you carry with the safety on or off? |
| I have had several PPK's over the years. I always carried mine with the safety on as I don't think the PPK's had an internal firing pin block, so there is the possibility that it could go off if dropped...... I eventually swapped out my last one for a Sig P-232 as it had the internal firing pin block. |
| The PP series pistols have two safeties, a hammer block which is passive and blocks the hammer unless the trigger is pulled. The second is the safety lever which decocks the hammer and locks the firing pin. If the safety is off the firing pin is not locked so if you have a round in the chamber with the safety off and the weapon is dropped it will discharge if it hits just right. The bottom line is. that if you carry a PP or PPK loaded, the safety should be on until you get ready to squeeze the trigger. |
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The weapon I usually cary is a 1911 - condition 1 (chamberd and cocked with thumb safety engaged)
I always incorporate a thumb sweep when I practice drawing (either gun, just for consistancy), so on the odd occasion when I carry my ppks, I have the safety on. If I only had a ppks...( well, honestly I'd sell it and buy a 1911... But if for some reason I was going to keep just the Walther), I'd probably leave if off. - I carry in an IWB tuckable holster (crossbreed), and quite honestly the number of things that have to go wrong before a "drop malfunction" could possibly occur is beyond reasonably accounting for. - However the convinience of a "Point and Shoot" situation is easy to forsee. . |
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As long as it's in a holster, I always have the safety off. The only time I ever use the
safety is for a hammer drop, or when I take it out to run into the post office or somewhere I can't legally carry. IMO, the safety just isn't designed to release quickly like on a 1911. Just my opinion though. Chad 
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When I carried a PPK I carried it safety off. When a freind of mine on a traffic stop took a silvertip from a .380 through the forearm that was stopped by his name tag before beating the shit out of the perp that shot him I quit carrying the PPK and went to a S&W 659.  ETA: I carried the 659 safety off as well.  |
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Quoted: Do you carry with the safety on or off? ON. ALLWAYS ON! Carrying a PP series with the safety off is BEGGING to shoot one's self in the leg/ass/dick/whatever, WITHOUT pulling the trigger... There are NO safety measures on that weapon functioning when the manual safety is off. This is NOT a Glock, Beretta, or 1911, with regard to 'passive' safety measures... If you hit the hammer hard enough with the safety off, even when the hammer is down, it WILL fire the gun. |
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The PP series pistols have two safeties, a hammer block which is passive and blocks the hammer unless the trigger is pulled. The second is the safety lever which decocks the hammer and locks the firing pin. If the safety is off the firing pin is not locked so if you have a round in the chamber with the safety off and the weapon is dropped it will discharge if it hits just right. The bottom line is. that if you carry a PP or PPK loaded, the safety should be on until you get ready to squeeze the trigger. This, except that I keep mine off...
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There are NO safety measures on that weapon functioning when the manual safety is off.
This is NOT a Glock, Beretta, or 1911, with regard to 'passive' safety measures... If you hit the hammer hard enough with the safety off, even when the hammer is down, it WILL fire the gun. Not true at all. Since its inception, the Walther PP design has had a passive hammer block to prevent the gun from firing if it is dropped on the hammer. With the hammer down, the gun will not fire if the hammer is hit with a hammer either. In this respect, the PP design is very similar to a double action revolver. With the safety on, the firing pin is locked and will not move. While the firing pin is free to move about with the safety off, it would need a near vertical drop onto the muzzle of some height to cause the firing pin to move forward with sufficient inertia to fire. This is a trait that is common to other guns such as the 1911, 1911A1 and series 70 pistols too. I don't see folks junking those guns and getting series 80 pistols to correct this one trait. I will continue to carry mine loaded with the safety off. |