Posted: 9/16/2008 2:55:01 AM EDT
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Hi! Just wanted to let you know that on MSPO fair in Kielce, Poland, new version of P99 was uncovered. This version will be exclusivelly produced by "Fabryka Broni" in Radom (former "Lucznik" known for good, polish AKMS, Tantal and Beryl assault rifles and Glauberyt SMG sold in US/Canada as semi auto BRS99 pistol). Name "RAD" comes form factory site in RADom. All trigger systems are same, but RAD have new frame and slide. Frame uses mil-spec accesory rail. Pistol is primarly destined for mil/le users. I had opportunity to shoot pictured gun with serial number 3. It was equipedd with DAO trigger. While nothing fancy about trigger, but frame is really comfortable to grip (almost like P30, but lacks possibility to tune side panels). Cocking serrations are much more positive, and front ones are nice additions (for me at least). Basically looks like someone got HK P30 in his hand and liked it http://altair.com.pl/files/spec/2008/09/rt1-z01rad01.jpg http://altair.com.pl/files/spec/2008/09/rt1-z01rad02.jpg http://altair.com.pl/files/spec/2008/09/rt1-z01rad03.jpg Article in polish language. |
I'm not sure what parts of P99 RAD are (or will be) actually "made in Poland" if any (frames are for sure from Germany, slides and barrels have German proof marks on prototypes), however official info from Walther was that final assembly of P99 RAD wil take place exclusivelly in FB Radom. Hopefully they will at least make barrels in Radom, as FB makes very good barrels (their prototype barrels for P99 were more durable and cheaper to make that original ones, but Walther was not interested at this time). FB was one for first factories to work on carbon-nitriding barrel bores long time ago (instead of chrome) and are offering them in Beryl assault rifle (5.56 NATO derivate of 5,45x39 Tantal , who comes form 7,62x39 AKM, who comes from AK-47). Maybe slides and some small parts will came from FB. As to plastic, FB doesn't have good tooling to make plastic components, especially pistol frames. |
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FWIW This P99 is made in Germany by Walther ..... The "DE" on the slide clearly shows it is made in Germany and so does the "Staghorn" proof that shows the was proofed by the Ulm proofamt just like any other Walther or HK The trigger is somewhat like the P99 QA trigger (precocked) It is different in that there is no decocker on the top of the slide like on the P99QA but it still does not require that the trigger be pulled for take down.... This came about since the guidelines have changed about having a "partially cocked" pistol in service rather than having a DAO or DA/SA |
It is not. Trigger on working prototype (serial number 3 - this one on pictures) is DAO (I know how to tell the difference, belive me). I handled and shoot this weapon, when it was presented to officials from Polish Armed Forces. There are plans to make it also in SA/DA (Anti Stress) and QA, but for now only DAO is working. BTW I mentioned that prototype was all made in Germany. My comments about possible polish made parts are about mass production. |
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FWIW this gun (for polish service) will have slide and barrel made in Poland and frame and all internal parts to slide and frame made by Walther The triggers that are currently available by Walther are DAO and a QA like trigger (new design that does not require the trigger to be pulled for take down nor does it have a decock button) The all Walther made 2008 P99 will be for Military and LE only and there are no plans by Walther to sell this version of the P99 to civilians also the slide serrations on the all Walther made 2008 P99's are different Walther redesigned the P99 only since the requirements for police carry in Germany once more have changed and the police forces in Germany now can carry a precocked service weapon were previously they only were allowed to carry handguns with the striker fully decocked or the hammer was down(hence the DAO version being in service in some "states or Laender for those that know what Laender are) |
| I've always liked the look of t he P99 and I like this even more. Both my grandfathers were Polish so I've got a lot of Polish pride and after visiting t he country last year it only increased. (I was in Krakow for a wedding.) I'd love to get my hands on one of these. It's going to be impossible though isn't it? |