Posted: 5/19/2010 8:31:57 AM EDT
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Hey guys,
One of my buddy's at work was asking me about opinions on the Taurus 24/7 and whether or not he should go with a .40 or .45 and also if I had any other comments about it. Personally, I've never shot or even held one of these. So I was wondering if my fellow board members could supply me with any meaningful feedback to give him. Is there something better for the price to recommend? Thanks |
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I've owned a 24/7 in 9mm for a year now and have never had a problem with it.
Been shooting my local IDPA & USPSA matches with it and just qualified as a Sharpshooter with it in IDPA last week. I've been shooting for less than a year and regularly go 2000 rounds between cleaning without a hitch. I know a lot of people have bad things to say about Taurus but between my 24/7 and MilPro I've never had any issues. Scott |
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Had the pt24/7 .40 for a few years until I sold it. I agree with the comment above, go with a glock or XD. I've shot all 3 in .40 side by side along with about 4 other guys, just having fun at the range.
Lets put it this way, the Taurus was mine and it lost the pepsi challenge. As mentioned above by someone else, the trigger takes a lot of getting use to. (For me after the glock and XD it just became unacceptable) |
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. I've been shooting for less than a year and regularly go 2000 rounds between cleaning without a hitch. Then someone taught you wrong.  No... They taught me to clean it after every range trip, but if you do that than you'll never know if the gun will perform if the time comes when you can't clean it regularly. My guns must also handle all sorts of different brands of ammo (which they do). I don't want no finicky, princess guns in my house 
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. I've been shooting for less than a year and regularly go 2000 rounds between cleaning without a hitch. Then someone taught you wrong. No... They taught me to clean it after every range trip, but if you do that than you'll never know if the gun will perform if the time comes when you can't clean it regularly. My guns must also handle all sorts of different brands of ammo (which they do). I don't want no finicky, princess guns in my house
Scott Still dead wrong. |
| My Taurus 24/7 Pro is in 45 ACP. It shoots 5 inch groups at 25 yards and hasn't malfunctioned yet. What more can you ask. One feature I really like is the safety lever on the side. I just feel better having it because if someone should get close enough to take the gun away from you, he may be stupid enough not to know to put the safety off. Those trigger safeties on the Glocks/XDs/M&Ps aren't really safeties in my opinion. |
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Is he looking at a 24/7, or a newer 24/7 PRO? The newer ones have a reengineered trigger. Supposed to be better than the old. I have a 9mm PRO DS, and I love it. Money's tight, so I can't hit the range much. I did find that it does NOT like Monarch 9mm. Read around, and found that Monarch is weakly loaded. The gun eats WWB reliably. Of course, it's new, so it might still be a little tight. Other than that, I really like it. Not a bad gun for $400. |
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. I've been shooting for less than a year and regularly go 2000 rounds between cleaning without a hitch. Then someone taught you wrong. No... They taught me to clean it after every range trip, but if you do that than you'll never know if the gun will perform if the time comes when you can't clean it regularly. My guns must also handle all sorts of different brands of ammo (which they do). I don't want no finicky, princess guns in my house
Scott Still dead wrong. And why is he dead wrong? |
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I have a 24/7 pro in the .45 for a little over 2 years now.
It is a great gun, has about 200rnds of REM UMC, 100rnds of wolf. 2 fail to fire, bad primers on the wolf (retried the bullet in my brother's gun). I've never had a mag issue. How much are these guns worth now days? I am going to trade up for a glock 21. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: . I've been shooting for less than a year and regularly go 2000 rounds between cleaning without a hitch. Then someone taught you wrong. No... They taught me to clean it after every range trip, but if you do that than you'll never know if the gun will perform if the time comes when you can't clean it regularly. My guns must also handle all sorts of different brands of ammo (which they do). I don't want no finicky, princess guns in my house Scott Still dead wrong. And why is he dead wrong? Tempting fate? What if he had a situation where his life DEPENDED on his gun, and it was dirty and failed on him? If this particular gun is just a range toy or a safe queen, then no foul. If it's his personal/home/nightstand/CCW gun, then he should keep it in clean and lubed shape at all times. I'd also opine that dirty guns will wear quicker - particles in the lube or no lube at all will wear metal on metal parts quicker. Clean your shit. It's just better NOT to tempt fate. |
| I have had my 24/7 pro 9mm for a while now about 500 rounds through it without a hiccup. Good gun so far. I have had a Taurus PT99 for about 18 years and had one issue with it. The rear sight pin hole was over sized and the pin drifted out. a larger roll pin and loctite fixed that right up. |
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I own two Taurus 24/7 Compacts in 9mm. I've had them for about 15 months, and would estimate I've shot about 5k rounds total through them.
Both have the common 24/7 issue of light primer strikes in double action, so you have no second strike capability, and you don't have the option to carry safety-off hammer-down. A little Google-fu and you'll find this is a long running issue with the 24/7 line. The trigger has a long sloppy take up in double and single action. The magazine catch is weak and sometimes my grip on the gun pulls the mag out while firing. No, I'm not hitting the button. I've had virtually no problems as far as FTF/FTE or other things. I plan to trade mine in and get a G19 for concealed carry and a 92A1 for home defense. |
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I own two Taurus 24/7 Compacts in 9mm. I've had them for about 15 months, and would estimate I've shot about 5k rounds total through them. Both have the common 24/7 issue of light primer strikes in double action, so you have no second strike capability, and you don't have the option to carry safety-off hammer-down. A little Google-fu and you'll find this is a long running issue with the 24/7 line. The trigger has a long sloppy take up in double and single action. The magazine catch is weak and sometimes my grip on the gun pulls the mag out while firing. No, I'm not hitting the button. I've had virtually no problems as far as FTF/FTE or other things. I plan to trade mine in and get a G19 for concealed carry and a 92A1 for home defense. 24/7 PRO, or 24/7 PRO DS? |
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I like my 24/7 Pro 4" .45. I just got through putting a set of Heinie night sights on it. I love the light trigger and can tell little difference between the DA and SA pulls. I actually bought it because of the ergonomics and appearance. It's a better-looking gun than any of the others in this class, most of which look like 'High Points' and it fits my hand like an old glove. Magazine problems: I thought at first I was having problems but it was my own unfamiliarity with the gun. First, there's little to no bounce left in the mag with 12 rounds in it, and you are going to need a mag loader. Second, the fully-loaded mag doesn't want to lock against the closed slide. This is actually normal in many auto-loaders and happens a lot with the AR-15. So if you want to carry fully-loaded which is what anyone would recommend (12+1), you just have to slap the mag in with gusto. Otherwise you can carry 11+1. You lock in a loaded mag with the slide locked back and simply release the slide to load. For 12+1, you have to load one, leave the slide closed, load 12 in the mag and lock it in - you can't pussyfoot-around with it.
The friction between the top round and the breech block in the slide does not hamper function on that first shot and subsequent loading, and after that the spring tension is a little lighter. My 24/7 is one of my two 'ready' guns. Once or twice a year I take it to the range just as it had been for the last six months, without changing ammo or doing anything to the gun whatsoever, point it at the target, flip the safety off and start shooting. I run both mags, take it home and clean it and reload. It's hard for me to get used to not detail-stripping it like I would one of my 1911s. I field strip it, clean the barrel, slide and spring, look everything else over and put it back together. I dry-fire it a few times and test the safety before loading it. What can I say? I love the thing and it seems to be a good pistol. I also think it's the most under rated one in the current class of polymer-frame .45 ACP pistols. If you go by the forums, you'll see a lot of Taurus hate and get the idea that nobody likes them. Funny, but I kind of had that idea before I got a couple of them (I also have a PT1911B). The truth is, they sell a lot of guns here in the US and the guns are good. Are they perfect? No, and neither are any others. If you don't believe that, you haven't been reading the other manufacturers' forums. Even $5000 custom hand-made 1911s can have problems, and certainly Colt's guns are not perfect. Okay, I'm off the soap box. I'll just leave you with a picture of my PT1911 that I just finished remodeling. 
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24/7 PRO DS I haven't shot mine in a long time, but I found that it does NOT like Monarch brand ammo from Academy. That ammo, though, is reputed to be very lightly loaded, so I fault the ammo, not the gun. I have not shot the gun in double action, but haven't heard anything about light primer strikes. But then, I haven't read around on it in a while. As far as the trigger having a long sloppy take up, I agree, however, I would comment that when shooting, you shouldn't let the trigger reset all the way forward. When shooting in single action, you should hold the trigger as part of your follow-through, then only release it forward until you feel it reset. This shouldn't be a long distance at all. Your followup shot(s) should be a simple squeeze. If you're letting the trigger reset all the way forward, your shooting style is sloppy. I have not encountered any pulling out of the magazine, but I wouldn't put it beyond plastic parts to be out of spec on a low-end pistol. Perhaps that is something that Taurus could fix for you? Now, I would never say that the Taurus is on par in terms of quality as a Glock, but I think that it's easily dollar for dollar as good - meaning, it's definitely a $400 gun compared to Glock's $500 guns. Overall, I am pleased with mine. Would that ammo were cheaper, I'd go shoot more! |
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I fired my 24/7 Pro yesterday, the first time I've shot it since installing the Heinie night sights - my guesswork on sight adjustment during installation turned out good. I have been using Aguila IQ in 9mm and .45ACP for my carry guns which worked fine in the 24/7 and Kel Tec P11. I have made a change to Speer Lawman 115 gr JHP for the 9mm and Speer GoldDot 185 gr JHP .45ACP for the 24/7. At the range, however, I use Blazer 230 gr FMJ, aluminum-case. The 24/7 and PT1911 both eat up all this different ammo without a hitch, and the Blazer seems pretty accurate. I had not fired any Aguila in the PT 1911 but had in the 24/7. The zinc-alloy bullet in the Aguila IQ tends to 'plate' the barrel and I think it has affected accuracy in the 24/7 because of the change to the copper-jacketed bullets. Groups were much bigger than the PT1911 at the same range (45') but were still loosely centered on the POA, so I called the sight adjustment good. I'm going to keep shooting Blazer in it and see if it straightens out over maybe 100 rounds. I've heard of similar effects going from cast lead bullets to jacketed which is why I never shoot lead in anything but a shotgun.
You may know Aguila discontinued the IQ in the US because of complaints that it was 'too good' at what it claimed to do. Aguila claimed that it would expand when hitting tissue, but would hold shape when hitting a hard surface like a windshield, THEN EXPAND IN TISSUE. Authorities here were concerned over possible vest penetration, which is basically ridiculous with the auto pistol up to and including the .45ACP, and they didn't make it in anything more powerful. It's a light, zinc-alloy or 'blended metal' bullet with a huge, sharp-edged hollow point. 9mm is only 65 gr but has a very high velocity. The same with the .45 at 117 gr. I've fired the stuff in everything, even a 1920 Luger with no problems. Because of the 'plating action' in the barrel, a mag full of IQ smooths-out and fills the pits in an old corroded barrel. Barrels don't really get bright and shiny when cleaning after firing this stuff - they stay sort of 'dark' which is the Zinc alloy sticking to it. I'm not getting rid of my remaing 'IQ' though - I think I'll keep it around for a rainy day. |
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. I've been shooting for less than a year and regularly go 2000 rounds between cleaning without a hitch. Then someone taught you wrong. No... They taught me to clean it after every range trip, but if you do that than you'll never know if the gun will perform if the time comes when you can't clean it regularly. My guns must also handle all sorts of different brands of ammo (which they do). I don't want no finicky, princess guns in my house
Scott Still dead wrong. And why is he dead wrong? Tempting fate? What if he had a situation where his life DEPENDED on his gun, and it was dirty and failed on him? If this particular gun is just a range toy or a safe queen, then no foul. If it's his personal/home/nightstand/CCW gun, then he should keep it in clean and lubed shape at all times. I'd also opine that dirty guns will wear quicker - particles in the lube or no lube at all will wear metal on metal parts quicker. Clean your shit. It's just better NOT to tempt fate. Strictly a range gun. Used for IDPA & IPSC matches only. Carry is a MilPro 9mm. Scott |
| I have a 24/7 Pro DS in .45 ACP and I like it. I have had it for a little less than a year and haven't been able to shoot it as much as I would like, but I like it. It shot straight out of the box, and I have not had a single malfunction yet. The trigger took a bit to get used to, but I have had zero issues. |
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I've fired the stuff in everything, even a 1920 Luger with no problems. Because of the 'plating action' in the barrel, a mag full of IQ smooths-out and fills the pits in an old corroded barrel. Barrels don't really get bright and shiny when cleaning after firing this stuff - they stay sort of 'dark' which is the Zinc alloy sticking to it. I'm not getting rid of my remaing 'IQ' though - I think I'll keep it around for a rainy day. thats called fouling. copper does it as well. |
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I've fired the stuff in everything, even a 1920 Luger with no problems. Because of the 'plating action' in the barrel, a mag full of IQ smooths-out and fills the pits in an old corroded barrel. Barrels don't really get bright and shiny when cleaning after firing this stuff - they stay sort of 'dark' which is the Zinc alloy sticking to it. I'm not getting rid of my remaing 'IQ' though - I think I'll keep it around for a rainy day. thats called fouling. copper does it as well. Now that was brilliant. Your command of the obvious is exceeded only by your lack of reading skills. What I was trying to tell you is that the damn zinc stays dark in the barrel. Copper fouling will still look bright and shiney. Also, there is no bore solvent for zinc, so you have to wear it out with regular ammo or use very aggressive methods to get rid of it. |