Posted: 3/22/2009 4:25:26 PM EDT
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What do you think of it for SD?
I liked to practice with what I carry and Speer Gold Dots are becoming cost prohibitive. I shoot a lot of cheap range ammo for shits and giggles; but I like to shoot plenty of my serious ammo as well. I'm thinking of switching to Double Tap .40 S&W loaded with 180 grain Gold Dots and I'm wondering if anyone has experience with this or the other Double Tap, Gold Dot bullet loads and your thoughts on them as SD ammo. Thanks. |
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DT loads their stuff TO THE MAX. I personally have no use for ammunition loaded so hot.
When you start pushing things to the limit, something's gotta give... I've read stories about people using DT ammo in their revolvers & autoloaders and getting bulged cases and "smiley faces" on the brass. That's indicative of excessive pressure. HERE'S a link to a comparison between DT .40 155gr Gold Dot vs Speer's 155gr Gold Dot offering. I'm not criticizing your ammo selection as i am well aware of the "out-of-panic" ammo hoarders buying up every freakin box of shells on the shelf they can get their greedy little hands on..! [reminds me of the gas mask buying frenzy of 2001-'02] I also know that DT greatly inflates their factory advertised velocity/energy figures and ballistic gelatin testing results. I don't believe a damn thing they say about their ammo ballistics claims My suggestion is to get some Federal HST, W-W Ranger or Speer Gold Dots the next opportunity you get. |
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DT loads their stuff TO THE MAX. I personally have no use for ammunition loaded so hot. When you start pushing things to the limit, something's gotta give... I've read stories about people using DT ammo in their revolvers & autoloaders and getting bulged cases and "smiley faces" on the brass. That's indicative of excessive pressure. HERE'S a link to a comparison between DT .40 155gr Gold Dot vs Speer's 155gr Gold Dot offering. I'm not criticizing your ammo selection as i am well aware of the "out-of-panic" ammo hoarders buying up every freakin box of shells on the shelf they can get their greedy little hands on..! [reminds me of the gas mask buying frenzy of 2001-'02] I also know that DT greatly inflates their factory advertised velocity/energy figures and ballistic gelatin testing results. I don't believe a damn thing they say about their ammo ballistics claims My suggestion is to get some Federal HST, W-W Ranger or Speer Gold Dots the next opportunity you get. Thanks a lot for your opinion as well as that link. I was sort of thinking the same thing and I've been carrying and shooting Speer 180 grain Gold Dot for practice as often as possible. I'm not a fan of extra hot loads either; but I also don't like to shoot WWB, UMC, or Fiocchi exclusively either because I want to keep accustomed to my carry ammo. It looks like I'm gonna stick with the Speer regardless of the cost. |
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I've chronoed the DoubleTap 9mm 147 grain +P Gold Dots, and the numbers from my Glock 19 were right about where their numbers were.
I didn't chrono it, but their 165 grain Gold Dot .40 load had a whole lot more kick than Federal HST or Remington Golden Saber or Speer Gold Dot, and it was the only ammo that would cycle my wife's Glock. That's the only ammo I've used, and I still carry their 9mm. I was planning to order another case, 124 grain this time, for carry in my Hi-Power with extra strength recoil spring. |
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Most .40 S&W loads are pushing the SAAMI limit as it is and I doubt DT is going to do much to push velocities higher. What they will do is get more muzzle blast and flash to give people the idea (intentionally or not) that the loads are hotter. My advice to you, since there are so many good factory SD loads for the .40, is to stick with one of the big guys. Speer Gold Dots, Winchester Ranger T or Remington Golden Sabers for example. |
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it was the only ammo that would cycle my wife's Glock. Any idea why? Curious Makes me wonder too. I've owned three .40 Glocks (22, 23 and 27) and they cycled anything I threw at them. No idea. She rented one at a range, and loved it, so she bought her own. It refused to cycle with WWB 180 grain ammo, or Blazer Brass, or Remington green box, or Golden Sabers, or Federal HST, or Federal Tactical. It jammed constantly when either of us were shooting it. Took it to a gunsmith, and he couldn't get it to jam, so he couldn't say what the problem was, and gave it back to us with no charge. Sold it to someone else who also couldn't get it to jam. |
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it was the only ammo that would cycle my wife's Glock. Any idea why? Curious Makes me wonder too. I've owned three .40 Glocks (22, 23 and 27) and they cycled anything I threw at them. No idea. She rented one at a range, and loved it, so she bought her own. It refused to cycle with WWB 180 grain ammo, or Blazer Brass, or Remington green box, or Golden Sabers, or Federal HST, or Federal Tactical. It jammed constantly when either of us were shooting it. Took it to a gunsmith, and he couldn't get it to jam, so he couldn't say what the problem was, and gave it back to us with no charge. Sold it to someone else who also couldn't get it to jam. Yeah that's strange, have several .40's, shot all ammo listed in weights from 135-180, no problems. |
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it was the only ammo that would cycle my wife's Glock. Any idea why? Curious Makes me wonder too. I've owned three .40 Glocks (22, 23 and 27) and they cycled anything I threw at them. No idea. She rented one at a range, and loved it, so she bought her own. It refused to cycle with WWB 180 grain ammo, or Blazer Brass, or Remington green box, or Golden Sabers, or Federal HST, or Federal Tactical. It jammed constantly when either of us were shooting it. Took it to a gunsmith, and he couldn't get it to jam, so he couldn't say what the problem was, and gave it back to us with no charge. Sold it to someone else who also couldn't get it to jam. Grip. |