Posted: 9/10/2011 9:31:12 PM EDT
| Saw some 9mm ammo the other day that is manufactured by Herter's and the box stated the the bullets were 115gr total nylon jackets. Anyone seen this or know anything about it? I can't seem to find anything about it online. Thanks. |
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Copy of Nyclads probalbly. I think at one time you could get the Hydra-shocks in a Nyclad bullet but I don't think they were around for very long. Nyclad slips down the barrel a little easier than copper jacket.
You can reload some really hot rounds on the edge using Nylon Jackets or Silvertips because of their softness compared to regular jacketed bullets. |
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Looks like CCI has been contracted to load a Federal Nyclad 115gr bullet into their aluminum cases.
http://www.cabelas.com/handgun-ammunition-herters-select-grade-tnj-9mm-ammunition-dry-box.shtml |
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Looks like CCI has been contracted to load a Federal Nyclad 115gr bullet into their aluminum cases. CCI, Speer, and Federal are the same company. No, they are NOT. CCI and Speer are located together in Lewiston ID. Federal Cartridge Co. has been in Anoka MN since 1922. (With me so far?). Now, Alliant Techsystems Inc. (ATK) is involved in the Aerospace and Armament industries, Missile systems and Security & Sporting products. Of the Security/Sporting industry, ATK owns the company rights to the following: CCI/Speer, Federal, Fusion, Estate Cartridge, Black Cloud, RCBS, Alliant Powders, Weaver, Redfield, Simmons, Outers, Ramline, Blackhawk & Eagle to name the majority. They also run the Lake City Arsenal. So to reiterate, CCI, Speer and Federal Cartridge Co. are NOT the same company, but they ARE owned by ATK. And that's as far as they come to being the same company. |
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Saw some 9mm ammo the other day that is manufactured by Herter's and the box stated the the bullets were 115gr total nylon jackets. Anyone seen this or know anything about it? I can't seem to find anything about it online. Thanks. As others have stated it's a copy of the Nyclad bulle that used to be issued by the NYPD. I did environmental work for a company that had a DGS contract, so I got to talk to the people that monitored the indoor PD ranges in NYC. The singular purpose of the nylon clad bullet was to reduce lead exposure for indoor training. NYC was worried about liability if their LEO's started comming down with evelated blood lead levels, so this was the solution to the potential problem. The only thing the nyclad bulled did was make the guns a bitch to clean. It had no bad effect on accuracy, but the base of the bullet left melted nylon down the barrel from being exposed to the hot gasses. |
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Saw some 9mm ammo the other day that is manufactured by Herter's and the box stated the the bullets were 115gr total nylon jackets. Anyone seen this or know anything about it? I can't seem to find anything about it online. Thanks. As others have stated it's a copy of the Nyclad bulle that used to be issued by the NYPD. I did environmental work for a company that had a DGS contract, so I got to talk to the people that monitored the indoor PD ranges in NYC. The singular purpose of the nylon clad bullet was to reduce lead exposure for indoor training. NYC was worried about liability if their LEO's started comming down with evelated blood lead levels, so this was the solution to the potential problem. The only thing the nyclad bulled did was make the guns a bitch to clean. It had no bad effect on accuracy, but the base of the bullet left melted nylon down the barrel from being exposed to the hot gasses. I'm just curious, vaporized or oxidized nylon creates some pretty toxic stuff, I guess cyanide is better for you than lead? I guess if it's not enough to kill you.... |
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Saw some 9mm ammo the other day that is manufactured by Herter's and the box stated the the bullets were 115gr total nylon jackets. Anyone seen this or know anything about it? I can't seem to find anything about it online. Thanks. As others have stated it's a copy of the Nyclad bulle that used to be issued by the NYPD. I did environmental work for a company that had a DGS contract, so I got to talk to the people that monitored the indoor PD ranges in NYC. The singular purpose of the nylon clad bullet was to reduce lead exposure for indoor training. NYC was worried about liability if their LEO's started comming down with evelated blood lead levels, so this was the solution to the potential problem. The only thing the nyclad bulled did was make the guns a bitch to clean. It had no bad effect on accuracy, but the base of the bullet left melted nylon down the barrel from being exposed to the hot gasses. I'm just curious, vaporized or oxidized nylon creates some pretty toxic stuff, I guess cyanide is better for you than lead? I guess if it's not enough to kill you.... The driving force behind the Nyclad was to reduce lead exposure. I'm assuming the ventilation systems, (or lack there of), made the potential cyanide issue secondary. Many of these decisions are driven not by actual issues, but by the appearance of impropriety. They are also driven by liability. Thousands of LEO's using indoor ranges sets up the department for the potential for large numbers of OSHA exposure issues. |