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7/22/2005 6:06:15 AM EDT
Well I was just reading the American Rifleman article on the SW production of the PPK and PPK/S and I think I know what my next purchase is going to be (although not in the immediate future).   And I really thought I didn't want or need any more handguns.
7/22/2005 12:58:06 PM EDT
[#1]
I have wanted a PPK/S for over 20 years, just haven't made the leap yet.
7/22/2005 1:47:47 PM EDT
[#2]
yeah I have to admit, i'm a little leary of the 380 round, but they just look sooo cool
7/22/2005 5:54:35 PM EDT
[#3]

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yeah I have to admit, i'm a little leary of the 380 round,





That wouldn't bother me as I doubt I'd ever use it as a primary carry, secondary carry at the most. I want one, well, just because.    
7/22/2005 5:57:55 PM EDT
[#4]
My Walther PPK has never let me down.

Granted I don't shoot it nearly as often as my othe firearms, but it's still a nice little shooter.

I wonder if they'll ever come up with a belt-fed version of it?
7/23/2005 7:25:36 AM EDT
[#5]

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yeah I have to admit, i'm a little leary of the 380 round,





That wouldn't bother me as I doubt I'd ever use it as a primary carry, secondary carry at the most. I want one, well, just because.    



I know exactly what you mean
7/23/2005 7:44:01 AM EDT
[#6]
They are small and I have larger hands.  I like mine though, it's accurate as all heck.  It doesn't hold a lot of ammo but it's a pretty slick little gun.
7/23/2005 7:45:42 AM EDT
[#7]
don't they have crappy triggers, unless they fixed that problem
7/23/2005 7:48:36 AM EDT
[#8]
Good friend of mine had one.  Wicked case of slide bite from it.  Still want one though.
Damnit, now I've gotta go watch some 007 movies.
7/23/2005 7:49:43 AM EDT
[#9]

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don't they have crappy triggers though unless they fixed that problem



Either they fixed it, or my friend got a good one.....it was very nice right out of the box.  (about 2 years ago)
7/23/2005 7:51:24 AM EDT
[#10]

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don't they have crappy triggers though unless they fixed that problem



Either they fixed it, or my friend got a good one.....it was very nice right out of the box.  (about 2 years ago)


they are cool and pretty guns. I may have to get one
7/23/2005 7:53:27 AM EDT
[#11]

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yeah I have to admit, i'm a little leary of the 380 round,





That wouldn't bother me as I doubt I'd ever use it as a primary carry, secondary carry at the most. I want one, well, just because.    



I know exactly what you mean




.380 in your coat pocket beats a .44 in the car.......

I carry .380 regularly, though in a Bersa not the PPK.  Sometimes you carry what you can.
Always nice to have an alternative.  

That article has me thinking about a PPK also.....
7/24/2005 8:38:50 AM EDT
[#12]

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Good friend of mine had one.  Wicked case of slide bite from it.  Still want one though.


according to the article, the only change SW made to the gun at all was to extend the tang slightly to help avoid this problem





Damnit, now I've gotta go watch some 007 movies.

7/24/2005 8:41:08 AM EDT
[#13]

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yeah I have to admit, i'm a little leary of the 380 round,





That wouldn't bother me as I doubt I'd ever use it as a primary carry, secondary carry at the most. I want one, well, just because.    



I know exactly what you mean




.380 in your coat pocket beats a .44 in the car.......


I carry .380 regularly, though in a Bersa not the PPK.  Sometimes you carry what you can.
Always nice to have an alternative.  

That article has me thinking about a PPK also.....



i agree a hundred percent on that one, my normal carry is a kahr mk9
7/24/2005 1:32:38 PM EDT
[#14]
Eight years ago I bought an FEG (Made in Budapest). It was a two tone, the slide was steel (black) and the frame was aluminum, the size of a PPK only in 9x18 Mak. The aliminum frame made it light enough for pocket carry but transfered more recoil to the hand (not an enjoyable plinker).

My dad wanted it so I gave it to him, thinking I could get another.  I've seen only the larger versions since then, with the longer slides and grips. Last I found a local importer for them. The replacement I bought was the same size as my first pistol (PPK sized) but differed in the frame being steel instead of aluminum, so its alot heavier but easier to shoot.

When I can't carry my Sig P228 or USP 40, this is in my pocket. These are great guns for the money at $200 or less. I can't justify getting a S&W PPK in .380 when I already have one of these in 9mm Mak. But, If I didn't hve these already, I probably would get the PPK.

Here are some photos of the two I have now. The one with a longer grip is .380 and the short grip is 9x18 Mak.
http://www.huntingpictures.net/photo/001383 http://www.huntingpictures.net/photo/001382
7/27/2005 3:47:22 PM EDT
[#15]
You can pick up nice PPs in .32 real cheap. I know they're a little bigger than the PPKs but to my eye they are more attractive.

However, if I were to carry one it would have to be in .380.
7/28/2005 4:09:52 PM EDT
[#16]
Be very cautious with any late model PPK / PPKS or PP's in .22 or .380 as they tend to be unreliable compared to the older guns (including those from Manhurin) I have never seen one go more than 200 or so rounds in a class without a malfunction...often shooter-induced, but still a malfunction...and I have seen at least 50 in classes over the years. Interestingly, the most reliable ones I have seen are the PP's in .32 acp. Not much of a gun, but I would never want to be shot with one!

Maybe S&W has resolved the reliability issues...never seen one of theirs...I will admit that I DO like the "feel" of these little pistols, even if they are expensive and heavy. JMO
7/28/2005 4:22:48 PM EDT
[#17]
My 1942 concealed carry PP.........if it could only tell me where it's been and what it has done. Look close at the slide and the barrel and you can see the "N" proof.

$250 a few years ago off GunBroker. Centerfire had German Police trade in PP's a couple years a go for $219.........very nice...........all .32 , no .380's
7/30/2005 5:05:06 PM EDT
[#18]
I just wanted to give my final verdict regarding my PPKS purchase a couple of months ago. I believe that I have all the kinks worked out.

1. I got three of the flat floor magazines (factory). They work great. The ones with the plastic finger rest seem to give me problems and do not lock into place reliabily.

2. Using some automotive epoxy putty, I was able to make the wood grips fit rock solid so that they do not shift and interfere with the magazine's ability to properly lock. See how they shifted below.

3. It did take some time for me to get used to the sights. They are accurate and did not need any adjustment. Actually, I found the gun to be pretty accurate once I got used to it. But it does take a while to get used to and you might think it sucks if you just shot it out of the box.

4. It had no malfunctions since the gun was new. Having the wood grips in solidly really helped.  And just got to keep it well oiled! If you do not oil it well, you are going to have FF problems. Also, you MUST chamber a round using a mag. Trying to force feed it through the ejection port will result in a jam that will make the gun useless and get you killed in a gun fight.

5. The gun does not seem to cut up my hand between the thumb and fore finger as badly since the grips do not shift any more. But it does bit much more than anyother gun I own.

Overall, I am much happier with it now than I was a couple of weeks ago.

10/13/2005 12:38:39 PM EDT
[#19]
What is the reliabilty of the .32 cal PPK or PPK/S?  I am considering one for my wife.  I have FEG .380 clone and to tell you the truth it is not fun to shoot without a glove.  The recoil actually hurts my hand.  I'm not sure why but it does?  I have no issue with my Glocks but the FEG in .380 gives a nasty bite.  What says the hive?

Regards,
Gary
10/13/2005 5:10:12 PM EDT
[#20]

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I have FEG .380 clone and to tell you the truth it is not fun to shoot without a glove.  The recoil actually hurts my hand.  I'm not sure why but it does?  I have no issue with my Glocks but the FEG in .380 gives a nasty bite.  What says the hive?





I vote for either your grip and/or maybe just a sensitive muscle in your hand that this gun seems to hit where the bigger guns don't?

Try shooting it weak hand & see if it does the same thing?
10/19/2005 8:42:33 PM EDT
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http://a8.cpimg.com/image/6C/F2/34298988-cf9e-028001E0-.jpg
http://a9.cpimg.com/image/6D/F3/34298989-7f00-028001E0-.jpg
http://a0.cpimg.com/image/6E/F3/34298990-c7e1-028001E0-.jpg

These are poorly executed photos (new camera, operator error), but they show my PP in 9mm kurz.  Made in West Germany in 1974.  I consider this my "Sunday go to meetin" gun.

10/19/2005 8:55:49 PM EDT
[#22]
Bought one SW/PPK S last year,
Put 400+ rounds thru it
so far, all is well, no malfs.
But the "bite" wears off in a couple days...
Not really an issue.
The guns finish isnt pretty, sloppy actually.
The pre-SW PPK S [ Interarms ] models are much nicer.

My 2 cents...

myit