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2/26/2012 8:02:33 PM EDT
Will the RAM fix the false reset on the trigger?  Mine has a small "bump" just before reset that drives me nuts. If the RAM will not do it, what will?
2/26/2012 8:09:15 PM EDT
[#1]
Sometimes yes, sometimes no.  Each gun is a little different.  I have found that if I polish the trigger bar where it contacts the sear it helps this problem a lot.
2/26/2012 10:10:09 PM EDT
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In my observations this false reset seems to be caused by the striker block plunger thing... Whatever it's called. What seems to happen is that the false reset is caused by the trigger bar coming off the striker block (making a click when the block pops back down) and giving a sensation that the trigger has reset. I've been considering ordering a spare striker block, and then trying to modify my existing one to see what I can come up with, perhaps make it more rounded. The only problem is that to remove the striker block you have to remove the rear sight, which I don't have an easy way to do.
2/27/2012 1:30:41 PM EDT
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Crazy, I'm still confused on why S&W would allow this to be a problem. Guess I'm in the minority, cause I don't see alot of people complaining about it. Otherwise, it's a nice pistol.  Are there smiths who can fix this?  Looked at several in the sticky but don't remember any of them claiming to fix the false reset. Thanks.
2/27/2012 1:34:32 PM EDT
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My trigger from American Tool and Engraving Inc solved that problem.

Link
2/27/2012 3:03:55 PM EDT
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My trigger from American Tool and Engraving Inc solved that problem.

Link


So what do they do to the trigger?
2/27/2012 10:07:41 PM EDT
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Sometimes yes, sometimes no.  Each gun is a little different.  I have found that if I polish the trigger bar where it contacts the sear it helps this problem a lot.


I recently found this out.  At first the RAM helped a little, I sent my M&P to Smith customer service for light strike issues(was the ammo) so I put the stock parts back in.  When I got it back the reset was much better so I left the RAM out.  I did ask about the Pro sear in the note I put in the box so maybe they installed one?
2/27/2012 10:09:28 PM EDT
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My trigger from American Tool and Engraving Inc solved that problem.

Link


Facebook sucks donkey dick.  Tell us what they did and what it cost.
2/27/2012 10:10:57 PM EDT
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Crazy, I'm still confused on why S&W would allow this to be a problem. Guess I'm in the minority, cause I don't see alot of people complaining about it.


You're right, it blows.  Which is a shame cause it's an excellent pistol and I shoot it well.  For the money it should come stock with a much better trigger.

This is easy and will give you a great trigger without spending a C note on Apex parts  Burwell Trigger Job
2/28/2012 7:00:02 PM EDT
[#9]
Well dang, I was hoping the RAM would finally get me to where I was happy with the trigger. I just the DCAEK to my 9mm compact and while it helped a lot I still wanted that positive reset I am used to with glocks. I guess for 30 bucks it can't  hurt to try at least.
2/28/2012 7:11:27 PM EDT
[#10]
I can deal with the less than positive reset in comparison to the Glock. However, the false reset drives me nuts. Emailed Apex Tactical about it and didn't really get a yes or no answer on if it could fix the problem. Anyone called S&W?
2/28/2012 7:18:10 PM EDT
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Crazy, I'm still confused on why S&W would allow this to be a problem. Guess I'm in the minority, cause I don't see alot of people complaining about it.


You're right, it blows.  Which is a shame cause it's an excellent pistol and I shoot it well.  For the money it should come stock with a much better trigger.

This is easy and will give you a great trigger without spending a C note on Apex parts  Burwell Trigger Job


Wish I could do this stuff. Don't have the tools or skills.
2/28/2012 7:33:40 PM EDT
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Crazy, I'm still confused on why S&W would allow this to be a problem. Guess I'm in the minority, cause I don't see alot of people complaining about it.


You're right, it blows.  Which is a shame cause it's an excellent pistol and I shoot it well.  For the money it should come stock with a much better trigger.

This is easy and will give you a great trigger without spending a C note on Apex parts  Burwell Trigger Job


Wish I could do this stuff. Don't have the tools or skills.


There are some places you can send your gun off to to have it professionally done.
2/29/2012 6:19:06 AM EDT
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Crazy, I'm still confused on why S&W would allow this to be a problem. Guess I'm in the minority, cause I don't see alot of people complaining about it.


You're right, it blows.  Which is a shame cause it's an excellent pistol and I shoot it well.  For the money it should come stock with a much better trigger.

This is easy and will give you a great trigger without spending a C note on Apex parts  Burwell Trigger Job


Wish I could do this stuff. Don't have the tools or skills.


There are some places you can send your gun off to to have it professionally done.


I have also seen a couple of Burwell jobs fail, because the sear's hardening was compromised and exposed the soft center of the MIM sear.

I would rather buy a Apex hard sear and put that in than run that risk.
2/29/2012 6:40:50 AM EDT
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Crazy, I'm still confused on why S&W would allow this to be a problem. Guess I'm in the minority, cause I don't see alot of people complaining about it.


You're right, it blows.  Which is a shame cause it's an excellent pistol and I shoot it well.  For the money it should come stock with a much better trigger.

This is easy and will give you a great trigger without spending a C note on Apex parts  Burwell Trigger Job


Wish I could do this stuff. Don't have the tools or skills.


There are some places you can send your gun off to to have it professionally done.


I have also seen a couple of Burwell jobs fail, because the sear's hardening was compromised and exposed the soft center of the MIM sear.

I would rather buy a Apex hard sear and put that in than run that risk.


But the gooey chewy center is the best part!
2/29/2012 7:19:07 AM EDT
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Crazy, I'm still confused on why S&W would allow this to be a problem. Guess I'm in the minority, cause I don't see alot of people complaining about it.


You're right, it blows.  Which is a shame cause it's an excellent pistol and I shoot it well.  For the money it should come stock with a much better trigger.

This is easy and will give you a great trigger without spending a C note on Apex parts  Burwell Trigger Job


Wish I could do this stuff. Don't have the tools or skills.


There are some places you can send your gun off to to have it professionally done.


I have also seen a couple of Burwell jobs fail, because the sear's hardening was compromised and exposed the soft center of the MIM sear.

I would rather buy a Apex hard sear and put that in than run that risk.


But the gooey chewy center is the best part!


Yea, right up till your sear craps out.
2/29/2012 7:24:54 AM EDT
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I have also seen a couple of Burwell jobs fail, because the sear's hardening was compromised and exposed the soft center of the MIM sear.



I would rather buy a Apex hard sear and put that in than run that risk.


I have about 5000 rounds on mine. But I did not mess with the length of the sear engagement, only the angles.



 
2/29/2012 3:05:27 PM EDT
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Will the RAM fix the false reset on the trigger?  Mine has a small "bump" just before reset that drives me nuts. If the RAM will not do it, what will?


how long have you had the gun? how many rounds have you put through the gun?
3/1/2012 8:24:09 PM EDT
[#18]
A few months and only a few hundred rounds.
3/1/2012 8:33:13 PM EDT
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I've heard the new Ram-U coming out in the next couple of months will "fix" the lack of audible reset.
3/2/2012 8:04:02 AM EDT
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A few months and only a few hundred rounds.


i honestly think that this is too few rounds down the pipe to make an accurate assesment of what you should change on the gun. I personally think that you should spend themoney on ammo and range time. I think the iternet and the availability of so many parts for guns make guys change things without true cause. put another 5000+ rounds down the tube and report back it you still feel like the reset is bad. this is just my opinion and should be treated as such.
3/2/2012 5:47:59 PM EDT
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A few months and only a few hundred rounds.


i honestly think that this is too few rounds down the pipe to make an accurate assesment of what you should change on the gun. I personally think that you should spend themoney on ammo and range time. I think the iternet and the availability of so many parts for guns make guys change things without true cause. put another 5000+ rounds down the tube and report back it you still feel like the reset is bad. this is just my opinion and should be treated as such.

The internet has nothing to do witth my dislike of the trigger. I have numerous firearms, none of which have any work done to them and ar bone stock. Except bolt on accs to my AR's.  5k with that trigger is a waste of money.
3/2/2012 7:22:48 PM EDT
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since you are so sure then why are you here asking people who use the same gun everyday? if you were not on the internet who would you ask? 5k a waste really whats the problem with getting some trigger time with the gun? whats the intended use of the gun? and if the Apex parts may be hit or miss as some have implied in this thread that would be the real waste of money! but the cool part about this whole thing is its your money. waste it however you want to.


3/3/2012 6:32:39 PM EDT
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a ram is all of 30 bucks shipped. You really think burning through 3 boxes of ammo would really be that much of a difference to call it a waste of money to try and get the trigger well enough to have the desire to put 5k through the gun? It's like telling someone shoot a sigma for 5k rounds then judge it, it may just grow on you.....
3/4/2012 3:53:48 AM EDT
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since you are so sure then why are you here asking people who use the same gun everyday? if you were not on the internet who would you ask? 5k a waste really whats the problem with getting some trigger time with the gun? whats the intended use of the gun? and if the Apex parts may be hit or miss as some have implied in this thread that would be the real waste of money! but the cool part about this whole thing is its your money. waste it however you want to.




Very little of your post  makes sense. I don't like the trigger. I came here looking for a fix; pretty simple. There is obvisouly no guaranteed fix. Obvisouly we waste our money in different ways.