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11/22/2011 7:18:24 AM EDT
Anyone done it? Seems to good to be true.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKit97YipiE
11/22/2011 2:47:06 PM EDT
[#1]
For a supposed 'gunsmith' I sure did love his terminology he was using.  Make sure you wear eye protection so you don't get springs in your eyeballs when you do this modification.
11/22/2011 3:18:43 PM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
Anyone done it? Seems to good to be true.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKit97YipiE


Let me ask you a question...and be honest now...do you really think S&W would put "unnecessary" springs in a budget pistol? If the goal is to produce a reliable gun on a budget, why would they waste money on those parts if the gun works just fine without them? I think you already know the answer.
11/22/2011 5:11:33 PM EDT
[#3]
I did it, got down to about 7 pounds. But it was still a Sigma...

Kind of like being the smartest kid with Downs Syndrome.
11/22/2011 7:15:18 PM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Anyone done it? Seems to good to be true.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKit97YipiE


Let me ask you a question...and be honest now...do you really think S&W would put "unnecessary" springs in a budget pistol? If the goal is to produce a reliable gun on a budget, why would they waste money on those parts if the gun works just fine without them? I think you already know the answer.


I was initially right in line with your thinking.  After looking at it it seems lime all three are essentially doing the same thing.  Maybe it's a lawyer thing to put a heavy trigger on it for possible police use?  Either way I will update with results of test fire.
11/23/2011 4:43:46 AM EDT
[#5]
i did it, gun fuctioned the same trigger was slightly better.
sigma is a great teaching tool. if you can keep them in the black with this trigger, you could with any gun.
11/23/2011 4:46:42 AM EDT
[#6]
I used to have one.  Removing the extra springs does lighten the trigger considerably.  It's still a Sigma trigger though, which means it sucks.  Long, creepy, stacks, and feels like the mating surfaces are made of 80 grit sandpaper.
11/23/2011 4:34:22 PM EDT
[#7]
Did the mod and test fired 1 magazine.  Was like a totally different gun and performed without a hitch.  The pull weight feels like it has been cut in half. The reset is long and faint though.
11/24/2011 1:54:21 PM EDT
[#8]
STOP! Don't listen to those newbs on youtube. If he is a gunsmith, he's a pretty lame gunsmith in that vid. Pretty soon that single spring will wear out, and you know what happens? the striker will break. why? b/c the spring is too weak to fully catch the striker, it'll do a half ass catch and then "snap" goes your striker. Also, don't use the bic pen springs to substitute for the fat spring, those will also wear out quickly and rust. The striker needs to be caught in full or else it'll snap off. Best mod is to just take the pig tail spring out, leave the other 2 springs in the sear housing, smooth out the sides/edges of where the striker and sear contact. Make those sharp edges dull. Use 600 grit sandpaper, don't take too much off, you just want to make it shiny and dull. The more metal you take off from the sear, the quicker the trigger pull, so it's less safe. Goodluck!






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11/30/2011 5:47:27 AM EDT
[#9]
Talked to my local gunsmith about this and he said, yeah, you could trade out springs, etc, but then you are going to have misfires.