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12/22/2009 12:16:04 PM EDT
I just acquired a stainelss 92.  I've encountered two problems:

Stove pipes (fresh round jams halfway into the chamer)
Slide will not stay open on last round

I only got one ten round Itilian Mag with the gun. What is the most  likely cause of the problem? Magazine?

Thanks for your help.
12/22/2009 12:41:59 PM EDT
[#1]
I would pick up a new magazine
12/22/2009 2:20:01 PM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
I would pick up a new magazine


This and lube that bad boy up!
12/23/2009 3:15:21 PM EDT
[#3]
I changed out the magazine and that solved the "slide did not stay back on last round" problem. However the gun continues to jam (stove pipe)every other round. Any ideas on that problem? Weak spring?

Thanks.
12/23/2009 4:38:36 PM EDT
[#4]
Did you buy the gun new or used? A new recoil spring is only $10-12, so that's a cheap option for a fix attempt, IMO. I use a spring 2-3lbs higher than OEM standard.

You didn't mention how much (or little!) lube you have on the gun. I suggest a GOOD amount of lube on the slide rails & frame rails. Any excess will quickly be flung off when shooting.

I would also try different brands of ammo as well as letting a fellow shooter try the gun to see if he/she encounters the same issues you're having.

Try these & then let us know how it's going.    
12/24/2009 4:20:49 AM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
I changed out the magazine and that solved the "slide did not stay back on last round" problem. However the gun continues to jam (stove pipe)every other round. Any ideas on that problem? Weak spring?

Thanks.


The 92FS isn't very ammo sensitive, but it bears checking other brands to see if this problem persists. Having another person fire the weapon is also a good idea. If problems persist -

Go ahead and change out the recoil, hammer and extractor springs. The other thing to check is your ejector. Ensure that the ejector is still properly pinned in place. Also check that there isn't excessive play side to side or back to front. A little is ok, a lot isn't. More than likely the stovepipes are caused by a weak recoil and extractor spring combo, but I've seen problems crop up with the ejector being the root cause.

And while I have no want to refute BobCole, you are wanting this gun to work with the factory spring weight before changing them. Recoil is 13# and hammer is 20# (18# for D models). Beretta is well aware of people changing the weight of the springs and teaches in its armorers course to diagnose a gun with the stock springs. Otherwise you could be brute forcing the problem and cause excessive wear over the life of the gun.

I'd recommend Wolff or Beretta OEM springs for all your needs.
12/24/2009 7:19:54 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:

And while I have no want to refute BobCole,



Hey, it's just my opinion. It's worth what he paid for it..................    
12/26/2009 5:49:58 PM EDT
[#7]
Update?  
12/26/2009 6:22:41 PM EDT
[#8]
I haven't had time to go back to the range since trying a new magazine. I plan to re-lube the gun very well and try a different brand of ammo. I have additional springs to replace if needed. Gentlemen, thank you for the help and advice. I will update some time next week.
12/26/2009 6:25:29 PM EDT
[#9]
By the way, I bought the gun used. I'm still happy with it as the price was right even with a few problems. However I'm not at the point of betting my life on it.
12/28/2009 9:15:22 AM EDT
[#10]
OP, what ammo have you tried?  I had the same problem using Remington 9mm bulk packs.
Your pistol should run all day long with an OEM magazine (regardless of capacity), OEM recoil spring, and quality ammo.
I've had good luck with WWB 9mm Luger, WWB 9mm NATO, and Monarch brass-cased ammo in my 92FS INOX.  
12/28/2009 1:48:29 PM EDT
[#11]
Mine has never been ammo sensitive.  

This is a used pistol, correct?