Posted: 4/24/2014 11:18:42 PM EDT
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I recently purchased a Beretta M9 from my local gun shop. I was surprised at the lack of quality of the hard case the weapon shipped in.
I have opened and closed the case approx 12 times and the hinge is already breaking. What happened to older cases they appeared to be more solidly built. On a side note I was surprised at the lack of a TM 9-1005-317-10. Since it was a M9 I purchased I would think that it would be included since it is on the BASIC ISSUE ITEMS list. I hope that a Beretta customer Service Representative will address these concerns as I would think I am not the only person with the same thoughts. Thank you for your time and have a Great American day. |
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Heres a copy of tm-9-1005-317-10 I don't know why you think a pistol on the civilian market would come with a military manual though. As for the box, its a cheapo plastic box, who cares?
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Heres a copy of tm-9-1005-317-10 I don't know why you think a pistol on the civilian market would come with a military manual though. As for the box, its a cheapo plastic box, who cares? Berettas 'used' to come with nice / thick / hard plastic cases... (or sometimes a VERY nice wood and aluminum Beretta marked case on special 'limited edition' gun packages...  )
Lately they come in thin / flimsy plastic crap that needs a donut thingie in there to keep it from collapsing under ANY sort of weight. Pay MORE and get LESS is how things are NOW with Beretta. (and plastic / crap parts recently on the guns as well  )
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-It's a commercial gun. So the TM 9-1005-317-10 manual doesn't apply to this one really. It's for commercial purpose. Hence it comes with the regular 92/96 series manual.
-Yes, the boxes that they ship guns with do suck. But I've never had any issues with them. I pretty much open up the case and the gun goes into the safe to be shot later. The blue plastic cups (jello molds) are to keep the cheapie cases from being crushed. -These M9s are commercial M9s. Not military contract M9s. Granted they are made on the same machines as the military contract guns. And use the same parts. But the serial numbers are different and the various parts aren't stamped with cage codes (barrel, hammer, etc)and they have different roll marks. But it's the same gun. -Minus the guide rod. The plastic parts are actually metal parts, wrapped in polymer. They do this now for probably cost savings, but these parts wear better and longer and are self lubricating. Some, if not all of the contract M9s have these plastic wrapped metal parts. |
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I would like to begin by thanking everyone for their comments on the topic at hand. I am aware of the quality of the weapon I have used one
while on active duty with the Navy, and helped maintain them while with the Army Guard. I was only trying to state that I am displeased at how shoddy the supplied hard case is. As far as the lack of a TM I do understand the weapon in question is a civilian weapon however there AR15 manufactures that include the M16 TM with their AR15's Thank you for your assistance and have a Great American Day. |
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I was only trying to state that I am displeased at how shoddy the supplied hard case is. As far as the lack of a TM I do understand the weapon in question is a civilian weapon however there AR15 manufactures that include the M16 TM with their AR15's Beretta did supply the original military manual (along with the civilian manual) in a limited run of 5000 (or maybe 10k) M9 pistols back in the late 90's or early 2000's. They were shipped in a large box containing the issued holster, mag pouch, and belt. You also got the original military shipping carton with a green cardboard sleeve around it, along with a single "preban" 15-round magazine. |
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I don't buy a gun for it's case. It's gonna live in my safe or range bag. The case gets stored. If I wanna sell the gun, I will simply pull the case out of wherever I store it.
FWIW, if a company wants to save money and help keep the overall cost of the gun down by supplying it with a cheaper case, I'm all for it. Its my option to upgrade it if I wanted. I have no comment for your lack of a TM. Novelty item is novelty. Sorry if my opinion didnt help. |
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I never use the factory box. At least the most recent ones have some padding inside. For years, they were all polymer inside, and would scratch the gun.
I use my own cases to go to the range. I only mess with the factory box when I get it initially, and if I sell a gun later on... |
| I've bought Glocks, S&W's of several models, Walther, Berettas, Ruger's and others I can't remember and they all come in crappy plastic cases. To me the cases are just made to get them back and forth long enough to find a better way of carrying them. The only one that really disappointed me was my S&W 629 V-Comp Performance Center revolver. Quite a nice, and pricy revolver that used to come in a nice aluminum case but now comes in a plastic case even crappier than the case my inexpensive little Walther P22 came in. As it stands I just put the guns in the safe until needed and the cases are stacked on a shelf in case I should even need one. Plus it makes an easy way to find a particular guns owner's manual and accessories since I keep them in the case. I have separate, far better and padded, range bags that I use for taking the guns anywhere. Plus should I ever decide to sell a particular gun I find they sell faster and for more money when the case and original accessories is with the gun. |