Posted: 4/20/2013 10:18:06 PM EDT
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OK, I am a newb to Berettas.....and I need some learning.
What is the difference btw the two listed above models? And do thy take the same mags? Thanks for your patience. -CG |
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The head on the hammer pin on the 92FS is bigger. There is a relief cut in the slide to clear the larger head of the pin. If the slide were to fail and separate, the rear portion of the slide will come back and get stuck on the bigger head, rather than come off the slide and hit you in the face.
The Army made Beretta come up with a way to retain the slide on the frame in case of separation after the first M9s broke some slides. They take the same magazines. |
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Nope. I'm suggesting the sidearm that I have carried reliably for the last ten years. I don't care how slow of a seller it is. It is stupid reliable and I love the fact that it doesn't have a decocking lever. Draw, aim, shoot. Game over. How would you say that long DA trigger pull affects accuracy? I've debated one of these, they're plentiful and cheap. Seems like there's no real demand, at least the 96D models. |
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Nope. I'm suggesting the sidearm that I have carried reliably for the last ten years. I don't care how slow of a seller it is. It is stupid reliable and I love the fact that it doesn't have a decocking lever. Draw, aim, shoot. Game over. If you didn't have to pay for it, then I guess you wouldn't care about resale value. 
But those of us whom don't get our guns handed to us have to consider all aspects. Not to mention the DAO aspect has nothing to do with the 92FS' reliability. None. 
The OP didn't mention whether or not a decocking lever was an issue. Until then, it's a moot point. |
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I have no problems. Put them all into a six inch for or at 25 yards.[div] If *I* shot 6" groups, then *I* would be embarrassed to admit it. The 92Fs can do groups as little as 1-1/2" @ 25 yards with the right ammo. I believe you just made the case for the FS model over the D model, sir. 
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I have no problems. Put them all into a six inch for or at 25 yards.[div] If *I* shot 6" groups, then *I* would be embarrassed to admit it. The 92Fs can do groups as little as 1-1/2" @ 25 yards with the right ammo. I believe you just made the case for the FS model over the D model, sir. While the gun may be capable of that, most humans are not given that the front sight is wider than the bullseye at 25 yards. |
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Quoted: Quoted: I have no problems. Put them all into a six inch for or at 25 yards. If *I* shot 6" groups, then *I* would be embarrassed to admit it. The 92Fs can do groups as little as 1-1/2" @ 25 yards with the right ammo. I believe you just made the case for the FS model over the D model, sir. While the gun may be capable of that, most humans are not given that the front sight is wider than the bullseye at 25 yards. Uh, thanks. Shooting unsupported standing at 25 yards with timed facing targets... And the fact that it is not a rifle to be used to take surgical shots... Oh, and the fact that the only difference between the D and FS is the abscence of a decocking lever and that it has a slick slide... No, I made a case for how the gun functions. I don't have to worry about decocking or removing a safety when it's time to be hitting the boom switch. For me, the police, it is one less thing that I have to worry about when engaging a deadly threat. When it's raining, I'm sweating, breathing hard, lying on my back, in the dark, and being shot at... I don't want to worry about fucking with a safety. [div]Your results may vary. |
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Well, I inherited my uncle's 92F after he passed.
It looks almost brand new. I shot it, and like how it shoots. It has a decocker, and I think that is neat. I'm even thinking of getting a Storm carbine. I usually only carry my 1911. Thinking of using the 92F for 3-gun and training purposes. |
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Well, I inherited my uncle's 92F after he passed. It looks almost brand new. I shot it, and like how it shoots. It has a decocker, and I think that is neat. I'm even thinking of getting a Storm carbine. I usually only carry my 1911. Thinking of using the 92F for 3-gun and training purposes. Ahem............
Ok, you're on your way. Now you need to do a couple of things to make your 92F simply perfect: 1) Go to the Wolff gunspring web site & order the following springs: reduced power captured trigger return spring, reduced power mainspring (I went with the lowest, 16lb, I think?) & a new recoil spring that's 2-3lbs above OEM rating (Wolff lists which one is OEM, making this easy). All these springs can be had for around $20-24, so it's a cheap upgrade. 2) Install said springs. 3) Add a drop of oil on the trigger bar & anything that moves internally. Not a lot, just a drop here & there. The reason you bump up on the recoil spring is twofold. One, the OEM spring is designed for light to hot loads. You most likely won't be shooting light loads, thus you'll better protect your slide & locking bar under the barrel. Two, when you drop to a lighter mainspring, the slide will have less resistance when travelling back & hitting the hammer. The + 2-3lbs spring makes up for this. Contrary to what some "experts" write, these guns are indeed capable of extraordinary accuracy. I've busted clays that were sitting on a bank from 50 yards (not feet, yards!) away. I used mine for years in USPSA, steel plate & 3 Gun matches. My 92FS NEVER once let me down. Never! Also, don't be afraid of using Checkmate mags. As you most likely won't be crawling around in a sandbox somewhere, they'll be perfectly fine for your use. They can sometimes be found for as little as $12-13 each. Beretta OEM mags are good mags but they're usually in the $40 each range. Ouch! 
Enjoy your gun!!!! 
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reduced power captured trigger return spring Is this the trigger conversion unit? (WOLFF RP TRIGGER CONV UNIT FOR BERETTA 92 & 96) Or just a trigger spring? Quoted:
reduced power mainspring (I went with the lowest, 16lb, I think?) By mainspring, do you mean hammer spring? The lowest is 13 lb, do you think the 16 lb recoil spring would be enough for this? I wouldn't want to damage my slide by not having a heavy enough recoil spring. |
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Is this the trigger conversion unit? (WOLFF RP TRIGGER CONV UNIT FOR BERETTA 92 & 96) Or just a trigger spring? Yes, it's a captured unit. Think if it as being "P" shaped, with the spring along the long spine of the "p". The OEM spring is a "mousetrap" design & has been known to break as well as being a PITA to reassemble. By mainspring, do you mean hammer spring? The lowest is 13 lb, do you think the 16 lb recoil spring would be enough for this? I wouldn't want to damage my slide by not having a heavy enough recoil spring.
Yes, hammer spring = mainspring. What I did was go above the OEM recoil spring weight the same # of lbs that I dropped the hammer spring weight. So, if I went from a 16lb OEM hammer spring to a 13lb spring, I added 3lbs to the recoil spring to compensate. Hope this helps! |
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Indeed it does. I just got an M9A1 and after getting the Hogue grips, the next thing I wanna do is reduce the weight of that first trigger pull. Thanks! Now, keep in mind that the replacement trigger return spring will only work with the metal trigger! Wolff states this (or used to) on their web site. It won't fit the newer models with the polymer-covered MIM trigger. Many owners swap out these new triggers for an all-steel one. So don't get caught with a part your gun won't be able to use. |
| The Wolff improved trigger spring is a good product. I put one in my high-use 92FS and it's worth doing IMO just to removed the broken trigger return spring potential. When you see how it works, it's easy to understand why it's a better product. I chose the standard weight rating one, and it didn't change anything, which is the result I wanted. It's a good unit. |
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Oh, and the fact that the only difference between the D and FS is the abscence of a decocking lever and that it has a slick slide... No, I made a case for how the gun functions. I don't have to worry about decocking or removing a safety when it's time to be hitting the boom switch. For me, the police, it is one less thing that I have to worry about when engaging a deadly threat. When it's raining, I'm sweating, breathing hard, lying on my back, in the dark, and being shot at... I don't want to worry about fucking with a safety. Your results may vary. If you don't want to worry about a safety just get a 92G. I don't know why you would ever worry about a decocking lever, when you are finished shooting you decock the weapon and place it in your holster. It's a low stress situation and there's no hurry. I have no issues with the safety/decocker on my 92A1. When I rack the slide my fingers are under the safety, ensuring it stays off. When I finish shooting, I decock the weapon, holster it and flip the safety off. When I take my holster off I put the weapon on safe. Not very hard to figure out, thousands of soldiers who are unfamiliar with firearms figure it out. Personally I really dislike DAO firearms. When I pick up a pistol and see it's DAO, it just ruins it for me. The only reason police departments use DAO weapons is because too many officers couldn't keep their booger hooks of the trigger. |