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4/11/2004 3:45:41 PM EDT
Gents

 I have been contemplating on getting one.  I have 1911s and no other types.  Somebody talk me into it or out of it.

Thanks

Max
4/11/2004 4:44:16 PM EDT
[#1]
Of course you should get one.

4/11/2004 4:49:12 PM EDT
[#2]
If you like un-necessarily overly complicated light primer striking pistols, then YES!
4/11/2004 5:53:30 PM EDT
[#3]
I grew up with 1911s, the Colt variety, and have a special place in my heart for them. With that being said, and having owned many, many other .45 autos, the P220 is the finest DA .45 I've had the pleasure of owning while not cursing at the same time.

I currently own two P220s - one German, the other American - and they're about as good as you're going to get for an outta the box, stock auto. Accurate as all get-out and utterly reliable (it seems to be pretty common to get 2" groups at 50-meters from a P220, rested of course).

One thing to keep in mind, though, if you do decide to acquire the P220, get the ACT/Novak mags ($19.00/each), they're the shi'ite.  
4/11/2004 5:58:51 PM EDT
[#4]
I've never had one malfunction of any kind, with any kind of ammo in my P220.  I've owned and shot it for 8 years now.  Everyone who shoots it likes the way it shoots and the accuracy.  I shot it better than my Colt GoldCup.  I sold it and kept the P220.

They're a good gun and a nice DA/SA .45ACP that isn't gigantic in the grip.  

I'd say "yes, go buy one"

Ross
4/11/2004 6:22:56 PM EDT
[#5]
You should get the P220ST......
4/11/2004 7:53:29 PM EDT
[#6]
I've got 2.  Bought the first one 10 years ago and I can't recall ever having a problem with it - no jams, no misfeeds, no misfires.  I've put thousands of rounds through it and I really like it a lot.  It used to be my favorite handgun, then I bought a Kimber - now it's tied for first place.

Edited to add:

Have you shot one yet?  If not, that's the best way to tell.  If you like the way it shoots and feels in your hand, get it.  You'll have a high quality, reliable gun.  If you don't like the way it shoots or feels, then bag it.
4/12/2004 5:45:26 AM EDT
[#7]
Is 750 too much?  What is a good price for a brand new one?

Max
4/12/2004 8:20:51 AM EDT
[#8]
Around here new P220s can be found for $689 (btw, that's from a particular dealer that sells 10%-12% over cost).
4/12/2004 10:37:30 AM EDT
[#9]
Hey I thought I smelled a little bullshit in this thread. Sniff sniff, (light primer hits ahhahah)
wait its gone.  

I have had the same P220 for 15 years. It has thousands of rounds down range with just one problem after all these years, broken extractor.



Quoted:
Is 750 too much?  What is a good price for a brand new one?

Max



Too high for a plain jane.
stainless ?
Night sights?
4/12/2004 1:27:17 PM EDT
[#10]
P220 ST and ditto for the Novak mags, they work great don't bother paying the extra money for the stainless when the blued work just as fine.
4/12/2004 7:49:14 PM EDT
[#11]
You should get one because I want one.

If you only own 1911s, a SIG is the best choice for a transition to a DA trigger IMO. I have a 226 and a 2340, and love them both.
4/13/2004 7:58:26 PM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
If you like un-necessarily overly complicated light primer striking pistols, then YES!

Probably never owned one and heard this bullshit somewhere.

I have one and it has never failed in over five years.

Overly complicated??????????  It has a decocker, that's it.  I suppose to some, that is overly complicated, but I suppose getting a drink of water is overly complicated to those same folks.
4/13/2004 8:16:56 PM EDT
[#13]
I've got 4 Colt 1911's and two Sig P220's. Get one you'll like it
4/14/2004 2:40:50 PM EDT
[#14]
You guys are a bad influence.  I'll put one on lay away.

Max
4/14/2004 11:29:39 PM EDT
[#15]
I'm a 1911 guy also. I owned a P220, and it was a great pistol. But, the recoil was to different (weird) for me. Two of my buddies thought the same thing.
4/21/2004 9:06:46 PM EDT
[#16]
I just picked up a new Sig 220 ST.  Came with Trijicon night sights, 3 factory 8 rd mags for $700.   I have had Sig 220's before I can't wait to shoot this one this weekend.
4/21/2004 9:29:04 PM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:
I just picked up a new Sig 220 ST.  Came with Trijicon night sights, 3 factory 8 rd mags for $700.   I have had Sig 220's before I can't wait to shoot this one this weekend.



That's an awesome deal! Congrats!!
4/22/2004 1:18:42 PM EDT
[#18]
I have a  series 1 Kimber Classic Custom Target it is a very accurate 1911, I did some trading for a Sig P-220 a few months back, at first I had some fte's and a few ftf's. The problem in both cases was my ammo (light loads). The gun was also shooting low, or so I thought, After about 6-700 rounds all of a sudden things came together, I can now shoot it like a house afire, it is very accurate, and I no longer have any ammo problems, even with the same light loads that were problematic before. (Go figure) I figure the gun must have broken itself in, and along the way I figured out how to shoot it. I like the Sig so much I sent it to Trijicon to have night sights installed, It came back 2 weeks ago the night sights are great! I plan on using the 220 for a CCW, As others have pointed out, it would be quick to get into action, no saftey's to remember to flip off, just aim and pull the trigger what could be simpler? The 220 is a very well made pistol that will not need any tweaking to get it to run, Accuracy out of the box should be very good, if not outstanding. I'd reccomend one in a miniute.  
4/26/2004 1:26:44 PM EDT
[#19]
Chuck Taylor has called the Sig 220 series about as efficient a DA/SA handgun as is possible to make and still stand up to modern safety standards.   He likes them a lot though he is a 1911 and Glock fan.   People have various opinions about Taylor some of them very valid, but the guy is an outrageously good handgun shooter.  You've got to admire a guy who can consistently tag silhouette targets at 100 yards with a .357 snubby.

I love my Sig 220 and it's treated me well, up until recently.  The reset spring broke suddenly during a dry-fire session, and while the pistol would probably still operate in a pinch, there is no way I can trust it until I get it fixed.  I'll also take the opportunity to get a short trigger and nite sights installed.
4/26/2004 7:30:58 PM EDT
[#20]
Yes, get one.  KY Imports and CDNN have used ones for super cheap, under $400.  
4/28/2004 1:30:14 PM EDT
[#21]
The SIG P220 IMHO is the finest double action 45ACP available.   I have had nothing but excellent experience with two of them.  I still prefer a good 1911.  Watch-Six
5/1/2004 8:39:32 PM EDT
[#22]

How does it compare to the .45 Ruger?  Does anybody own both?
5/6/2004 6:13:17 PM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:
The SIG P220 IMHO is the finest double action 45ACP available.   I have had nothing but excellent experience with two of them.  I still prefer a good 1911.  Watch-Six



But there's no reason not to have both. I do.
5/7/2004 6:55:31 PM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:
How does it compare to the .45 Ruger?  Does anybody own both?



Well, I have a P90 and a P220.  I would trust my life to either.  I will carry either as willingly.

The P90 is a little heavier and wider, but it is just as accurate and reliable.

I am waiting for the flaming to start, but I have had the P90 longer and it is just fine.  I would rather have it than a Glock.
5/7/2004 8:56:46 PM EDT
[#25]
I sold a Ruger P97 to get my P220.  No regrets.  The Ruger was nice, but the Sig is in a different world.  I have heard nothing about good things from all metal ruger autos, but the P97 was not as accurate as my Sig.  
5/9/2004 8:29:27 PM EDT
[#26]
Just curious, my P220 doesnt like lead semi wadcutters at all.  It will cause the rim of the cartridge being ejected to catch on the lip of the next cartridge in the mag thoroughly tying up the pistol.  It also needs the occasional rap at the end of the slide to get them keep running through.  My M1911 eats these very same loads with stake your life on it reliablility.  Is this because I have an older west german P220 or is this common with the pistol?   It also has very spotty accuracy with lead bullets whereas I hear some people swear to it's accuracy I tend to swear at it.  It may all boil down to shooting something other than LSWCs but I've always bought em and reloaded with the H&G #68 for many years without a hitch.    If I switch to a truncated cone type should it be okay?   Do I need to run jacketed bullets in this pistol?
5/10/2004 8:10:17 PM EDT
[#27]

Quoted:
If you like un-necessarily overly complicated light primer striking pistols, then YES!



What an inaccurate statement. I have never had a light primer strike, misfire or FTF/FTE after 10,000 rounds of FMJ and JHP with my P220. Best .45 I have ever had. (have had Kimber, SA and Colt 1911s, HK USP and Glock)
5/11/2004 2:30:24 PM EDT
[#28]
Both of the P220s I have had worked fine with LSWC ammo.  I do use a taper crimp.  The accuracy has also been very good with the lead bullets.  Watch-Six
5/12/2004 5:38:07 AM EDT
[#29]

Quoted:
If you like un-necessarily overly complicated light primer striking pistols, then YES!


Either you had one that had the hammer spring clipped or got some reloads with the primers not seated all the way...just a guess, not doubting your word.
5/12/2004 7:29:12 AM EDT
[#30]

Quoted:

Quoted:
If you like un-necessarily overly complicated light primer striking pistols, then YES!


Either you had one that had the hammer spring clipped or got some reloads with the primers not seated all the way...just a guess, not doubting your word.



Well, I am doubting his word and calling bullshit on it.  He is talking out his ass.
5/14/2004 9:38:44 AM EDT
[#31]
You absolutely NEED a 220
5/16/2004 2:07:16 AM EDT
[#32]
I've had my P220 since '92 or '93. It's everything that a pistol should be.
YMMV
M
5/17/2004 5:02:46 PM EDT
[#33]
Just as an update to my earlier post, I traded off my old P220 for a new one.  The new one was far more accurate and reliable than the old one.  Maybe it was just worn out, it was previously a swat cop's gun before I got hold of it.  Anybody got the short trigger?  The stock trigger reach is a bit uncomfortable for my little girly hands.
5/17/2004 5:31:28 PM EDT
[#34]

Quoted:
If you like un-necessarily overly complicated light primer striking pistols, then YES!



Huh?

I have 1.  
I have shot maybe 30 of them, never had a light strike, or malfunction of any kind.  (about 6K through the combination of the 30).  What say you?
5/25/2004 6:56:26 PM EDT
[#35]

Quoted:
Just as an update to my earlier post, I traded off my old P220 for a new one.  The new one was far more accurate and reliable than the old one.  Maybe it was just worn out, it was previously a swat cop's gun before I got hold of it.  Anybody got the short trigger?  The stock trigger reach is a bit uncomfortable for my little girly hands.



I, too, have the same short fingers. Guess I'll have to get the short trigger put-in.  
6/3/2004 10:50:50 AM EDT
[#36]

Quoted:
I'm a 1911 guy also. I owned a P220, and it was a great pistol. But, the recoil was to different (weird) for me. Two of my buddies thought the same thing.



I've heard this from people who have owned 1911's for many years. They like the gun, it's just that they've been accustomed to the feel of a 1911.