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Link Posted: 2/6/2020 6:36:57 PM EDT
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Did these come in different frame sizes also?
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Yes they were overwhelming in medium though.
Link Posted: 2/6/2020 7:11:19 PM EDT
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S/N: TF000423
12-21-2016 to 12-11-2019 B Company 1st Battalion 26th Infantry 101st Airborne Division

S/N: TF003966
01-05-2018 to 06-18-2019 G Company 2nd Squadron 3rd Cavalry Regiment

S/N: TF004988
12-15-2017 to 05-06-2019 B Company 96th Support Battalion 101st Airborne Division

S/N: TF005888
12-08-2017 to 10-31-2019 Headquarters Company 1st Battalion 28th Infantry Regiment Task Force.
Link Posted: 2/6/2020 8:16:54 PM EDT
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Just wanted to be sure, about to just say the heck with it and pick one up. Its in a good shape, 10XX serial.
Link Posted: 2/6/2020 9:47:22 PM EDT
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"if deletion happens, it will most likely not happen within the next 18 months. We're about 3 issued weapons behind and its not high on the list of things to do"
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@DeOppressoLiber15

Two guns I have were reported back as deleted.

TF002036: DELETED FROM INVENTORY 1/12/19

TF002775: DELETED FROM INVENTORY 12/16/18

Would be nice to know if this was a mistake.
Link Posted: 2/6/2020 11:27:53 PM EDT
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I am done for now with my acquisitions. I wanted one example from each 1K unit range and wound up with:

TF000419
TF001099
TF002099
TF003212 - 307th Support BN, 82nd ABN Division, Inventoried in 1/16/18 Out of Inventory 3/11/19
TF004322
TF005114

I hope to find out more about my other pistol’s history before the data is lost forever. I got lucky on one from a helpful friend on the FB group.
Link Posted: 2/6/2020 11:37:25 PM EDT
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There is a chunk of serial numbers in the TF000006 to TF005908 range that we probably will not see. I do not know what the quantity was.
I discovered by accident during some of my research that some were issued to the 20th Special Forces Group.
I did not see anything to indicate they were turned in like the current market pistols were.
Link Posted: 2/7/2020 12:19:24 AM EDT
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I am done for now with my acquisitions. I wanted one example from each 1K unit range and wound up with:

TF000419
TF001099
TF002099
TF003212 - 307th Support BN, 82nd ABN Division, Inventoried in 1/16/18 Out of Inventory 3/11/19
TF004322
TF005144

I hope to find out more about my other pistol’s history before the data is lost forever. I got lucky on one from a helpful friend on the FB group.
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I have 418. I was wondering who had the adjacent serials to mine. That's one!
Link Posted: 2/7/2020 3:14:48 AM EDT
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There is a chunk of serial numbers in the TF000006 to TF005908 range that we probably will not see. I do not know what the quantity was.
I discovered by accident during some of my research that some were issued to the 20th Special Forces Group.
I did not see anything to indicate they were turned in like the current market pistols were.
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That might help to explain some of the discrepancy between the "4000" released number we hear floating around while there seem to be almost 6000 made of this first generation with FDE controls.
Link Posted: 2/7/2020 7:52:37 AM EDT
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There is a chunk of serial numbers in the TF000006 to TF005908 range that we probably will not see. I do not know what the quantity was.
I discovered by accident during some of my research that some were issued to the 20th Special Forces Group.
I did not see anything to indicate they were turned in like the current market pistols were.
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Has anyone determined why some of our serial numbers don't show up at all in GCSS-A (mine is one of those).  When looking at every serial number associated with the M17's NSN (national stock number) there are gaps here and there.  In my example, I have 2260, but when looking at the full serial number list it goes ...2259, 2262, 2263...?  I'm guessing it's that they were either never entered into GCSS-A, maybe were pulled as QA samples or they were deleted from the system?  Not being a logi, I just don't know?  My pistol is essentially mint, looks like at best someone shot one mag through it, so it seems reasonable that it was never issued?  My 21 round mags are both marked "C Co" and have minor use, but I assume magazines were batched and just added to our boxes at the factory, as mags are normally not stored with the weapons in the arms room (at least not any I've ever seen).
Link Posted: 2/7/2020 9:53:25 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/7/2020 1:08:09 PM EDT
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I have 418. I was wondering who had the adjacent serials to mine. That's one!
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I am done for now with my acquisitions. I wanted one example from each 1K unit range and wound up with:

TF000419
TF001099
TF002099
TF003212 - 307th Support BN, 82nd ABN Division, Inventoried in 1/16/18 Out of Inventory 3/11/19
TF004322
TF005144

I hope to find out more about my other pistol’s history before the data is lost forever. I got lucky on one from a helpful friend on the FB group.
I have 418. I was wondering who had the adjacent serials to mine. That's one!
Yessir, and it is my BDay so I'm not planning on moving it. That's the only reason I grabbed it. I figured it was preordained.
Link Posted: 2/7/2020 9:31:26 PM EDT
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Well, I spent more than I wanted to (impatient little shit that I am), but I have a 10XX serial in great shape headed my way. Now I can sleep at night
Link Posted: 2/7/2020 10:46:21 PM EDT
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Ended up with 631 831 4799 and 4303
Was hoping for a sequential pair but I was drunk bidding on 831 and thought it was 630 from the pics

I am done buying because the boss said so
Link Posted: 2/7/2020 10:55:28 PM EDT
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Ended up with 631 831 4799 and 4303
Was hoping for a sequential pair but I was drunk bidding on 831 and thought it was 630 from the pics

I am done buying because the boss said so
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Link Posted: 2/8/2020 12:22:24 AM EDT
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Next step is to try and get a sister by trading I hope
Link Posted: 2/8/2020 9:17:12 AM EDT
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With these M17 pistols, I wouldn't put much of a price premium on sequential serial numbers. Just looking at the master serial number list on FB, there are hundreds of potential sequential numbers, unlike other historical firearms where sequential serial numbers are rarely seen.

Another thing goes against the value of sequential numbers when you go to sell them, is the fact that fewer people have the funds available to purchase two pistols vs. one. I've been through this on other historical firearms with sequential numbers. There is lots of interest but fewer buyers.

Cass
Link Posted: 2/8/2020 10:41:41 AM EDT
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With these M17 pistols, I wouldn't put much of a price premium on sequential serial numbers. Just looking at the master serial number list on FB, there are hundreds of potential sequential numbers, unlike other historical firearms where sequential serial numbers are rarely seen.

Another thing goes against the value of sequential numbers when you go to sell them, is the fact that fewer people have the funds available to purchase two pistols vs. one. I've been through this on other historical firearms with sequential numbers. There is lots of interest but fewer buyers.

Cass
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And the majority of sequential numbers didn't end up with the same units. I have two that serially are a couple hundred apart but were sequential rack numbers from the same unit.
Link Posted: 2/8/2020 11:09:06 AM EDT
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Oh I hear you guys on the resale side of twins.

This is to go with my other twins I have collected over the years.

I love the hunt
Link Posted: 2/8/2020 1:49:45 PM EDT
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some clean and excellent conditionns of M17 surplus recently. Would love to get one next time through Sportsman and try my luck.
GB is good with actual pics but not interested of those price.  I have my FFL importer that will ship here in Canada.
Link Posted: 2/8/2020 2:07:54 PM EDT
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Good Afternoon. I have TF000466 but I don't do FB. Can anyone hook a brother up with some intel?
Link Posted: 2/8/2020 2:17:45 PM EDT
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With these M17 pistols, I wouldn't put much of a price premium on sequential serial numbers. Just looking at the master serial number list on FB, there are hundreds of potential sequential numbers, unlike other historical firearms where sequential serial numbers are rarely seen.

Another thing goes against the value of sequential numbers when you go to sell them, is the fact that fewer people have the funds available to purchase two pistols vs. one. I've been through this on other historical firearms with sequential numbers. There is lots of interest but fewer buyers.
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Agreed. I would really be interested in a package with a surplus and commemorative of the same serial though. That would be a challenge to put together.
Link Posted: 2/8/2020 2:28:51 PM EDT
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Good Afternoon. I have TF000466 but I don't do FB. Can anyone hook a brother up with some intel?
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@reaper36a

IM sent
Link Posted: 2/8/2020 3:41:58 PM EDT
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Called k5 arms in Texas. On a waist list of 100 guns they are supposedly getting. Had to pay the full deposit. What’s the chances of them getting all 100?
Link Posted: 2/8/2020 3:57:42 PM EDT
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I think the new guns are all done.  New ones haven’t showed up in over a week and new listings on gb are now a trickle.

Gunbroker may be the only spot to find these now

Grab one before they are $2000+
Link Posted: 2/8/2020 4:22:56 PM EDT
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I just saw 00098 at a gun show today. Too bad it’s on gunbroker.
Link Posted: 2/8/2020 4:24:31 PM EDT
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I just saw 00098 at a gun show today. Too bad it’s on gunbroker.
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Do you remember the asking price at the show?

Also, 70 and 71 are over 7k right now with a couple hours to go.
Link Posted: 2/8/2020 4:38:44 PM EDT
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I think the new guns are all done.  New ones haven’t showed up in over a week and new listings on gb are now a trickle.

Gunbroker may be the only spot to find these now

Grab one before they are $2000+
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Hart Bros has one, I believe its 4XXX serial, they're asking $1159 and will ship.

http://www.hart-bros.com/inventorystock/inventory/usarmyissuedsigsauerm17419mm/
Link Posted: 2/8/2020 4:58:19 PM EDT
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This bodes well for my 83 if I ever decide to sell. I wonder if all of the guns that are going to be released have been sent out yet. Anyone know on this?
Link Posted: 2/8/2020 5:18:00 PM EDT
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This bodes well for my 83 if I ever decide to sell. I wonder if all of the guns that are going to be released have been sent out yet. Anyone know on this?
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There are multiple reports on the FB page from people talking with distributors that say they have none left now and they have all been shipped out and orders cancelled and funds refunded.

An employee of Sig that posts here has said Sig shipped all of them out awhile ago to distributors.

I think from this point forward we will see dealers who have held on to their stock as an investment and they slowing release them for max profits and private sellers.

Maybe the very rare and random LGS find.
Link Posted: 2/8/2020 5:18:12 PM EDT
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Sig says all were released to distributors and most distributors say that all are shipped.
Link Posted: 2/8/2020 5:38:49 PM EDT
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Called k5 arms in Texas. On a waist list of 100 guns they are supposedly getting. Had to pay the full deposit. What’s the chances of them getting all 100?
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100?

Somewhere between zero and .00000000000000000001%. How did they answer the question when you asked them?
Link Posted: 2/8/2020 7:40:09 PM EDT
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They said they are trickling in. They have had 15 come in. I called a week ago and it was 8. I paid full price for two, and would rather have my money back, if their isn’t a possibility of getting them in.
Link Posted: 2/8/2020 8:01:39 PM EDT
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Very low Consecutive SN's. Where will this one end?

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/855076986
Link Posted: 2/8/2020 8:03:26 PM EDT
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They said they are trickling in. They have had 15 come in. I called a week ago and it was 8. I paid full price for two, and would rather have my money back, if their isn’t a possibility of getting them in.
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So I’m following correctly.

K5 stated their distributors are still shipping them M17 surplus pistols? 7 this past week?
Link Posted: 2/8/2020 8:26:15 PM EDT
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They said they are trickling in. They have had 15 come in. I called a week ago and it was 8. I paid full price for two, and would rather have my money back, if their isn’t a possibility of getting them in.
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Yeah, at this point they are just lying to everyone, and holding everyones FULL payment using it to play the float and an interest free loan....
Link Posted: 2/8/2020 9:28:12 PM EDT
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How do I get on the FB group? Cant find it on FB
Link Posted: 2/8/2020 10:01:40 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/8/2020 11:34:10 PM EDT
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Do you remember the asking price at the show?

Also, 70 and 71 are over 7k right now with a couple hours to go.
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This is unpossible. I was assured that low serial #'s weren't worth a tinker's damn over a high serial number.

Link Posted: 2/9/2020 11:23:02 AM EDT
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https://www.facebook.com/groups/DecommissionedSurplusSigM17OwnersAssociation/
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Thank you
Link Posted: 2/10/2020 8:39:25 AM EDT
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I have TF003641.  Does anyone have any information on what unit it was issued to?
Link Posted: 2/10/2020 9:36:57 AM EDT
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One of my pistols was spotted in a newspaper article bout the 101st ABN getting their new pistols in November of 2017. That was a pleasant surprise

Link Posted: 2/10/2020 9:46:25 AM EDT
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One of my pistols was spotted in a newspaper article bout the 101st ABN getting their new pistols in November of 2017. That was a pleasant surprise

http://www.surfacezero.com/g503/data/500/636475539842986206-37970429604-dd543f7a80-o.jpg
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That's fantastic.
Link Posted: 2/10/2020 10:05:19 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/10/2020 5:26:10 PM EDT
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One person had a great result with a FOIA request. I cropped it to omit the owners information.

Attachment Attached File
Link Posted: 2/10/2020 9:13:39 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/10/2020 10:14:22 PM EDT
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One person had a great result with a FOIA request. I cropped it to omit the owners information.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/336740/20200210_152233_jpg-1271379.JPG
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Any chance you can share the wording that was used on the request? Sometimes it’s all in how you word it.
Link Posted: 2/10/2020 10:20:22 PM EDT
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Any chance you can share the wording that was used on the request? Sometimes it’s all in how you word it.
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It wasn't me...it was someone else in the Facebook group.
Link Posted: 2/10/2020 10:29:29 PM EDT
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It wasn't me...it was someone else in the Facebook group.
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Understood. I’m one of the schmoes who doesn’t have Facebook, so I can’t even ask them.
Link Posted: 2/11/2020 5:56:20 PM EDT
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Greetings to all !! New member here.  I was fortunate enough to secure 3 of the M17s and would appreciate any info on their history.  I have TF000472, TF000800 and TF001711.  Interestingly, 472 has a black stick-on scan code in place of the laser code.  Not sure why that happened. All three are fairly clean.  Have shot 472 ..... it's right on the money.  I have added a Romeo 1 Pro to it and waiting to return to the range to set it.   Thanks to all who respond.  T
Link Posted: 2/11/2020 7:10:42 PM EDT
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Greetings to all !! New member here.  I was fortunate enough to secure 3 of the M17s and would appreciate any info on their history.  I have TF000472, TF000800 and TF001711.  Interestingly, 472 has a black stick-on scan code in place of the laser code.  Not sure why that happened. All three are fairly clean.  Have shot 472 ..... it's right on the money.  I have added a Romeo 1 Pro to it and waiting to return to the range to set it.   Thanks to all who respond.  T
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Do you have a FaceBook account? Can you join the M17 Surplus Decomissioned pistol group? If not you will have to post more info here on each.
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