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8/13/2016 7:33:28 PM EDT
Anyone know where I can get a heavier than factory recoil spring for

a P220R3 Carry Elite? I get a lot of failures to feed, thinking my loads are too hot,

cycling slide too fast.
8/13/2016 9:46:17 PM EDT
[#1]
P220s are known for their reliability.  Mine has never hiccuped.  Maybe your loads are the issue.
8/14/2016 6:26:05 PM EDT
[#2]
How hot are your loads?

My P220 Carry Equinox with the use of the standard wound wire red  SIG springs has been perfectly reliable for over 12,000 rounds with any factory ammunition I've run through it including HST 230 grain+p.
8/14/2016 8:04:22 PM EDT
[#3]
I've been running a 230gr Zero JHP with 8.4grs AA #5 lit by Wolf LP Magnum primers.

On the hot side, touching +P level.

I have a bunch of magazines bought used, now thinking the springs need replacing.

If I stretch these mag springs, then problems seem to disapear for 2-3 mag full.
8/14/2016 8:24:04 PM EDT
[#4]
I shoot nothing but winchester lawmen 230 gr plus p in all of my P220s and never had a failure
8/14/2016 10:30:46 PM EDT
[#5]
Wolff has the heaviest recoil springs I know of for a P220. They also have magazine springs.

However, if a particular load is the only load that misbehaves in your P220, perhaps your P220 is trying to tell you something.
8/15/2016 8:49:41 AM EDT
[#6]
Cowboy, have issues with all loads, even anemic Winchester 230gr ball ammo.
8/15/2016 9:44:25 PM EDT
[#7]
It is very odd for a P220 to exhibit problems.

I would not simply shove in a heavy recoil spring, especially given that a P220 normally comes with a relatively heavy recoil spring.

A heavy recoil spring will only slow the slide down going to the rear, it will speed it up going forward.

Is this a new problem that just showed up?
8/15/2016 10:55:06 PM EDT
[#8]
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I've been running a 230gr Zero JHP with 8.4grs AA #5 lit by Wolf LP Magnum primers.

On the hot side, touching +P level.

I have a bunch of magazines bought used, now thinking the springs need replacing.

If I stretch these mag springs, then problems seem to disapear for 2-3 mag full.
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I'm fairly certain that you've found your problem right there, and it's not a recoil spring issue at all.
8/17/2016 10:34:06 PM EDT
[#9]
Get a .44mag, 45LC if you want a big bore supersonic round.  Otherwise keep .45acp subsonic.  

I've never had a ftf with my 20+ yr old P220
8/18/2016 12:45:46 PM EDT
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Get a .44mag, 45LC if you want a big bore supersonic round.  Otherwise keep .45acp subsonic.  

I've never had a ftf with my 20+ yr old P220
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I have a 44 Mag, thank you very much.
8/18/2016 3:16:15 PM EDT
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I have a 44 Mag, thank you very much.
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Get a .44mag, 45LC if you want a big bore supersonic round.  Otherwise keep .45acp subsonic.  

I've never had a ftf with my 20+ yr old P220
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I have a 44 Mag, thank you very much.


Please let us know how you resolve your problem.
8/19/2016 12:30:23 PM EDT
[#12]
America-First, new magazine springs arrived yesterday, I get back in town tomorrow

AM, hope to be at range testing springs by early afternoon. Will post an update.
8/21/2016 6:51:42 AM EDT
[#13]
Well the new magazine springs from Wolf have cleared up the failure to feed issue.

Interesting note: in two newest mags, can now only load 7 rounds while the older mags will

take 8 but it's a job getting that 8th round in.

New problem: had about half dozen failures to go into full battery, by about an 1/8".

Have thoroughly cleaned and lubed pistol, will test again today if rain stops.