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4/26/2010 11:44:44 AM EDT
I have adjusted my rear sight a bit but don't want to over-do it.   What's the trick to pull yourself back right?   :frustrated:



4/26/2010 11:55:08 AM EDT
[#1]
move rear sight right
4/26/2010 12:27:47 PM EDT
[#2]
I've noticed with Glocks grip can really change impact.  What works for me is a thumbs forward grip where my off hand knuckles are nearly under the trigger guard.  You might want to spend some time dry firing too.  Work on pulling the trigger to the rear without moving the front sight.  With dry firing, you can kill at least several birds with one stone, assuming the proper grip, trigger pull and sight alignment.  
4/26/2010 12:54:52 PM EDT
[#3]
The odds are it's you.

Have some one elce shoot it.
4/26/2010 12:58:41 PM EDT
[#4]
Shoot three shots to form a tight group.  

Aim for the center of the group, turn pistol upside down and squeeze the trigger.  It should be dead on now.







Seriously, double check your grip, then if necessary, adjust the rear sight.
4/26/2010 1:16:59 PM EDT
[#5]

4/26/2010 3:38:23 PM EDT
[#6]
Thanks for the replies.
I will have to re-learn the trigger/grip.  It's been nearly 9 months since I have gotten to the range (new babies take a LOT of time).



I think I read somewhere (maybe GD?) that most shoot w/ both eyes open.   I have been trying but have found this very difficult to do.   My eyes don't want to properly focus?

4/26/2010 3:54:06 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
Thanks for the replies.
I will have to re-learn the trigger/grip.  It's been nearly 9 months since I have gotten to the range (new babies take a LOT of time).



I think I read somewhere (maybe GD?) that most shoot w/ both eyes open.   I have been trying but have found this very difficult to do.   My eyes don't want to properly focus?



Squint just a little with your non-dominant eye.
4/26/2010 4:16:08 PM EDT
[#8]



Quoted:


Thanks for the replies.

I will have to re-learn the trigger/grip.  It's been nearly 9 months since I have gotten to the range (new babies take a LOT of time).
I think I read somewhere (maybe GD?) that most shoot w/ both eyes open.   I have been trying but have found this very difficult to do.   My eyes don't want to properly focus?





Dry fire practice.



Once you have pulled the trigger there is a reset that can be achieved without releasing it fully. A lot of the time when a shooter is shooting to the left it is because they are pulling the trigger fully each time (causing the gun to move left ) and not taking advantage of that trigger reset.



Try this, clear your weapon and dry fire it but keep the trigger pressed down. Now rack the slide with your other hand. Now slowly release the trigger till you feel and hear a click, this is the reset point. At this point all of the internal safeties are off but the trigger has been reset. With one light pull you can easily cause the trigger to break and the gun to dry fire. If you choose not to fire you can release it normally and start over again.



You can use this technique to cause quicker follow up shots and tighter groups.



 
4/26/2010 4:49:50 PM EDT
[#9]
Another thing I forgot to mention in my previous post is make sure you are putting enough finger on the trigger.  With Glock's trigger safety, I found myself not putting enough finger on the trigger.  I don't know if it was because of the edge of the safety was subconsciously making me think I had too much finger on the trigger or what.  



As I and others have said, do a lot of dry fire practice.  It helps!
4/26/2010 7:00:19 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
I've noticed with Glocks grip can really change impact.  What works for me is a thumbs forward grip where my off hand knuckles are nearly under the trigger guard.  You might want to spend some time dry firing too.  Work on pulling the trigger to the rear without moving the front sight.  With dry firing, you can kill at least several birds with one stone, assuming the proper grip, trigger pull and sight alignment.  


THIS +1
4/26/2010 9:24:46 PM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
The odds are it's you.

Have some one elce shoot it.


this is what i would say. im a new glock owner and had the same trouble first time out. i lighted up the trigger and now im wicked accurate with it. damn, now i want a 23....... good luck.
4/27/2010 7:28:15 AM EDT
[#12]
Lots of good info here, the grip and trigger finger placement have a huge affect on POA/POI.



Change your grip to see if there's a postive affect and pay attention to your trigger finger placement.



I had the same issues starting out with Glocks and those two things made a huge difference.
4/27/2010 7:37:44 AM EDT
[#13]
When shooting a glock, I noticed that I personally have a natrual tendency to push the trigger back and to the left due to the length of the pull.

What I've started doing is pulling "back and to the right" which is actually a straight back press.  Look at the forces you exert on the trigger, and then see if that may be your problem.
4/27/2010 9:12:27 AM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Thanks for the replies.
I will have to re-learn the trigger/grip.  It's been nearly 9 months since I have gotten to the range (new babies take a LOT of time).



I think I read somewhere (maybe GD?) that most shoot w/ both eyes open.   I have been trying but have found this very difficult to do.   My eyes don't want to properly focus?


Dry fire practice.

Once you have pulled the trigger there is a reset that can be achieved without releasing it fully. A lot of the time when a shooter is shooting to the left it is because they are pulling the trigger fully each time (causing the gun to move left ) and not taking advantage of that trigger reset.

Try this, clear your weapon and dry fire it but keep the trigger pressed down. Now rack the slide with your other hand. Now slowly release the trigger till you feel and hear a click, this is the reset point. At this point all of the internal safeties are off but the trigger has been reset. With one light pull you can easily cause the trigger to break and the gun to dry fire. If you choose not to fire you can release it normally and start over again.

You can use this technique to cause quicker follow up shots and tighter groups.
 




I usually shoot like you mentioned without doing a full reset.  
When shooting I use first pad of my index finger (under my fingernail?).  I'm assuming this is correct, I have always shot like this?

4/27/2010 9:13:25 AM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Thanks for the replies.
I will have to re-learn the trigger/grip.  It's been nearly 9 months since I have gotten to the range (new babies take a LOT of time).



I think I read somewhere (maybe GD?) that most shoot w/ both eyes open.   I have been trying but have found this very difficult to do.   My eyes don't want to properly focus?



Squint just a little with your non-dominant eye.


Ah.  

What are the advantages of both eyes open vs just one?
4/27/2010 9:14:22 AM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
Quoted:
The odds are it's you.

Have some one elce shoot it.


this is what i would say. im a new glock owner and had the same trouble first time out. i lighted up the trigger and now im wicked accurate with it. damn, now i want a 23....... good luck.


How light of a trigger did you go with?   I just have the standard 5lb in........In a legal situation a "modified" trigger may be the debbil...........
4/27/2010 11:16:11 AM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
The odds are it's you.

Have some one elce shoot it.


this is what i would say. im a new glock owner and had the same trouble first time out. i lighted up the trigger and now im wicked accurate with it. damn, now i want a 23....... good luck.


How light of a trigger did you go with?   I just have the standard 5lb in........In a legal situation a "modified" trigger may be the debbil...........


Ugh, no it wont.
4/27/2010 11:17:12 AM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Thanks for the replies.
I will have to re-learn the trigger/grip.  It's been nearly 9 months since I have gotten to the range (new babies take a LOT of time).



I think I read somewhere (maybe GD?) that most shoot w/ both eyes open.   I have been trying but have found this very difficult to do.   My eyes don't want to properly focus?



Squint just a little with your non-dominant eye.


Ah.  

What are the advantages of both eyes open vs just one?


Depth perception, full field of view.  Situational awareness is key when it comes to defensive shooting.  Close that left eye, and you lose a huge portion of your ability to track a second potential attacker.

4/28/2010 1:58:15 PM EDT
[#19]
All my Glock rear sights end up being drifted to the right, I thought it was just me until a supe HSLD guy, famous for his shooting prowess told me he does the same thing. Once I put the sight to the right I get beautiful, consistent groups. I have tried everything about my grip, sight pictures, type of socks and I always end up back where I started. I am moving the gun away and towards my eye as I am nearsighted and the target looks good, but my sight picture is blurry due to my glasses, it's time to stopping buying guns and spend some money on Lasix. YMMV