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3/31/2010 11:20:16 AM EDT
I think I want a Vickers extended mag release.

Second time shooting my new G19 . Only about 200 rounds through it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBFeeJuo_HU
Thanks to JakJakman for the vid.
3/31/2010 2:52:24 PM EDT
[#1]
Nice vid.
3/31/2010 3:02:48 PM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
I think I want a Vickers extended mag release.

Second time shooting my new G19 . Only about 200 rounds through it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBFeeJuo_HU
Thanks to JakJakman for the vid.


I am not sure that was a mag release issue.  It dropped when you presses the release, it just did not fall free.

I often hit the magazine release with my support hand thumb and wrap my lower two fingers of my support hand around the magazine to launch it out of the grip.  Positive magazine ejection that way!
3/31/2010 4:11:17 PM EDT
[#3]
Oh interesting, I'll have to remember that.
3/31/2010 8:57:06 PM EDT
[#4]
Yea I got fat hands that sometimes keep the mag from falling free, it sucks nutsack.
4/1/2010 12:10:45 PM EDT
[#5]
Yeah, I'll have to pay attention and see if it's my hands getting in the way. I know I was trying to be fast and fumbled a bit causing everything to be sloppy.

Second time ever shooting my Glock though and the only handgun I've owned before is an XD in .45 and I haven't shot it much. The Dynamic Handgun DVDs from Magpul have helped some, being as I know almost nothing about defensive handgun techniques.

I can't wait however to take a real class (from a local Front Sight instructor) being as I will be conceal carrying soon.

In retrospect however being as I know I didn't get the purchase on the mag release I could see how under stress it would be easier to hit something that stuck out a little more. Plus $15 for a little extended mag release button isnt too bad.

Anyway thought I would just share my little newb-ish experience. Hopefully its value added to someone lol.
4/1/2010 1:37:25 PM EDT
[#6]
What holster and magazine carrier are you running?  Looked like CB raven, but wasn't clear enough to ID.

For no formal training you're certainly on the right path.  Good search and assess, smooth draw.
4/1/2010 2:44:08 PM EDT
[#7]
Good eyes . It's a Raven Concealment LT and besides the crazy wait time it's very much worth every penny. The magazine carrier is also a Raven and very smooth.

4/1/2010 2:51:02 PM EDT
[#8]
Are you sure they are drop free mags?
4/1/2010 3:06:32 PM EDT
[#9]



Quoted:


I think I want a Vickers extended mag release.



Second time shooting my new G19
. Only about 200 rounds through it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBFeeJuo_HU

Thanks to JakJakman for the vid.


Gotta love the District 9 Prawn targets!



 
4/1/2010 3:11:32 PM EDT
[#10]
Was that a truck in front of your firing line?
4/1/2010 3:30:09 PM EDT
[#11]
They are factory Glock mags and seem to drop free most of the time when I depress the mag release button firmly. *edit* If I don't depress all the way it kind of stays in there.

And no, Im aimed away from the road and the truck is going away from me so no worries there . The camera angle however is very deceiving.
4/2/2010 1:09:11 PM EDT
[#12]
All of my gen 3 glocks except for my 26 have extended magazine releases.  If you dont really jam the stocker in there, it will rub on the mag as it comes out and kinda hold it up.

I buy G21 magazine releases (same thing as the 34 release) and then I file them down and take a soldering iron and stipple them.  I make them about the same length as the vickers, and it costs a TON less.
4/5/2010 4:22:53 PM EDT
[#13]
Oh nice, I'll have to check that out.

After further messing around I figured out that if I whip my handgun too quickly into my work space it wont drop free. Which I find myself doing sometimes.
4/5/2010 4:34:09 PM EDT
[#14]
I have extended mag release on all my glocks but I also train to strip the mag with support hand for reloads.  You dont loose any time.  Your support hand has to come down to grab back up mag anyway. So strip it on the way down.
4/5/2010 6:53:39 PM EDT
[#15]
Is the Vickers is shorter than the 21 realease or near the same size? I was looking for a longer release for my 21.
Nice holster/mag carrier choice I bought mine on the EE so I skipped the wait time.
4/5/2010 10:43:27 PM EDT
[#16]




Quoted:

I have extended mag release on all my glocks but I also train to strip the mag with support hand for reloads. You dont loose any time. Your support hand has to come down to grab back up mag anyway. So strip it on the way down.


+1

4/6/2010 12:37:44 PM EDT
[#17]
I think the issue is you were not letting gravity do its job.  The gun appears to be tilted (ie grip not perpendicular to the ground) in the reload that failed to drop free.  I am guessing if you kept the gun 'upright', the mag would clear.

I happens pretty quick, but it does appear the gun is at a 45 degree angle or so.
4/6/2010 4:46:32 PM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
I think the issue is you were not letting gravity do its job.  The gun appears to be tilted (ie grip not perpendicular to the ground) in the reload that failed to drop free.  I am guessing if you kept the gun 'upright', the mag would clear.

I happens pretty quick, but it does appear the gun is at a 45 degree angle or so.


I would have to disagree.  Smooth is fast and fast is smooth.  You should bring the gun back slightly in front of your eyes. at the same time strip the mag and start towards your reload.  When you bring the gun in a little it is going to tilt the magwell to your week side as you strip the mag, pointing the magwell towards your backup mag. Everything is in line.   Bringing the handgun towards you but in your line of site helps you manipulate the gun closer to you and in your field of vision making reloading faster.  Also you eyes are still on target then after reload you punch back out at target.  You must train like you fight.  If you rely on gravity only you might F#$@up in a critical incident.  To me everything is looking pretty good.

The time waisted on the shaking the gun for the mag to come free is killing time. I would say at least .15 to .2 seconds could be picked up on that alone.  Stripping the mag is way faster and will speed up the other processes as you won't be pinched up by the mag not falling out.  If I may add start some stepping of line drills from side to side during the draw, and you guys are looking good.
4/7/2010 5:58:41 AM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I think the issue is you were not letting gravity do its job.  The gun appears to be tilted (ie grip not perpendicular to the ground) in the reload that failed to drop free.  I am guessing if you kept the gun 'upright', the mag would clear.

I happens pretty quick, but it does appear the gun is at a 45 degree angle or so.


I would have to disagree.  Smooth is fast and fast is smooth.  You should bring the gun back slightly in front of your eyes. at the same time strip the mag and start towards your reload.  When you bring the gun in a little it is going to tilt the magwell to your week side as you strip the mag, pointing the magwell towards your backup mag. Everything is in line.   Bringing the handgun towards you but in your line of site helps you manipulate the gun closer to you and in your field of vision making reloading faster.  Also you eyes are still on target then after reload you punch back out at target.  You must train like you fight.  If you rely on gravity only you might F#$@up in a critical incident.  To me everything is looking pretty good.

The time waisted on the shaking the gun for the mag to come free is killing time. I would say at least .15 to .2 seconds could be picked up on that alone.  Stripping the mag is way faster and will speed up the other processes as you won't be pinched up by the mag not falling out.  If I may add start some stepping of line drills from side to side during the draw, and you guys are looking good.


I wasn't offering training advice or techniques, I was simply stating WHY his magazine failed to 'drop free'.  The OP was questioning the mag release or possible mag issues.  It is neither.  They are working as designed.  

I personally strip my mags on reloads as well...but that wasn't the OP question.