Posted: 3/5/2010 9:45:05 AM EDT
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Anyone have any experience with the new Glocks?
I have always been a huge fan of Glock, and always recommend them, but so far I have a few problems with these new ones. My biggest problem is the new recoil guide. It is the double spring model like they have in the compacts. The problem is that it has a huge metal base on it. It is so huge that it barely fits back into the gun. It has to be centered, and in the bottom groove, or it will catch. It get tiring when about 1/3 of the people can't get their gun back together, especially when there was zero problems with the old ones. The old guide rods won't fit in the new guns either. 
Another problem I had was two guns would not go back together. The slides would slide almost to the back, then stop. Something was catching, but I couldn't figure out what. The funny thing is that the slides would fit on different frames, but not the original frames??????? I'm sure they will end up being great guns after they are broken in, and we get used to them. I didn't notice before, but I think they have reversible magazine releases. That would make sense. The magazines have notches in both sides. I'll have to take a closer look. I'm sure our left handed shooters would love that. Anyone have any ideas on why the two slides wouldn't go back on their original frames? |
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Was there a magazine inserted in your Glock? This can cause the slide to hang up.
I agree...I'm not a huge fan of the new recoil assy. The base of the new guide is thin and "cheap looking". Oh well, long as it works, right? Waiting for an aftermarket vendor to make a good replacement...com'on Lone Wolf 
For anyone considering a Gen4 purchase, I think the slimmer and more ergonomic grip and larger mag release are great improvements 
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Anyone have any experience with the new Glocks? I have always been a huge fan of Glock, and always recommend them, but so far I have a few problems with these new ones. My biggest problem is the new recoil guide. It is the double spring model like they have in the compacts. The problem is that it has a huge metal base on it. It is so huge that it barely fits back into the gun. It has to be centered, and in the bottom groove, or it will catch. It get tiring when about 1/3 of the people can't get their gun back together, especially when there was zero problems with the old ones. The old guide rods won't fit in the new guns either.
Another problem I had was two guns would not go back together. The slides would slide almost to the back, then stop. Something was catching, but I couldn't figure out what. The funny thing is that the slides would fit on different frames, but not the original frames??????? I'm sure they will end up being great guns after they are broken in, and we get used to them. I didn't notice before, but I think they have reversible magazine releases. That would make sense. The magazines have notches in both sides. I'll have to take a closer look. I'm sure our left handed shooters would love that. Anyone have any ideas on why the two slides wouldn't go back on their original frames? The striker has to be in it's most forward position or it will not go on. Push down on the plunger on the underside of the frame and push the striker forward. Took me a few times to figure it out and a whole lotta of WTF's as well. Other than that, I love my new Gen4. Hoping to go to the range later on today and burn through some more ammo.
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It's a whole new Generation. Anything below a Gen4 is incompatible. Therefore, you can't put the Gen4 slide with a Gen3 lower.
I love mine. Glock has made a huge stride in improving the grip with the straps and textures. Before, my wife couldn't lock the slide back because the old grip felt too slippery, now with the new Gen4 she can lock the slide all day. As for the new steel recoil spring, it'll last longer. I really don't have any gripes regarding anything else but the disassembly tool it came with. When installing the backstrap pin, the top part of the tool is concave which doesn't allow you to push it all the way in. So I ended up using the corners of my Glock tool. Here's mine that I just got this week for $398.20, thanks to GSSF: 
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Anyone have any experience with the new Glocks? I have always been a huge fan of Glock, and always recommend them, but so far I have a few problems with these new ones. My biggest problem is the new recoil guide. It is the double spring model like they have in the compacts. The problem is that it has a huge metal base on it. It is so huge that it barely fits back into the gun. It has to be centered, and in the bottom groove, or it will catch. It get tiring when about 1/3 of the people can't get their gun back together, especially when there was zero problems with the old ones. The old guide rods won't fit in the new guns either.
Another problem I had was two guns would not go back together. The slides would slide almost to the back, then stop. Something was catching, but I couldn't figure out what. The funny thing is that the slides would fit on different frames, but not the original frames??????? I'm sure they will end up being great guns after they are broken in, and we get used to them. I didn't notice before, but I think they have reversible magazine releases. That would make sense. The magazines have notches in both sides. I'll have to take a closer look. I'm sure our left handed shooters would love that. Anyone have any ideas on why the two slides wouldn't go back on their original frames? If that happens, pull the trigger forward slightly as soon as it stops when it gets hung up during re-assembly. Its the trigger bar interfering with the firing pin safety, ask me how I know 
The one big part they fucked up on the gen 4 Glock was the trigger bar. They changed it slightly, and for whatever reason it catches a little bit during re-assembly on some of the guns, from time to time. I changed mine out with a spare 3rd gen trigger bar, works great now. All it takes is a little push forward on the trigger though, that will move the trigger bar down just enough to let it feely slip past. |
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The striker has to be in it's most forward position or it will not go on. Push down on the plunger on the underside of the frame and push the striker forward. Took me a few times to figure it out and a whole lotta of WTF's as well. Other than that, I love my new Gen4. Hoping to go to the range later on today and burn through some more ammo.
Its funny, but I figured that out today. If it was just one gun, I wouldn't have a problem. I have large groups of people all trying to re-assemble at the same time. Even after I show them how to push the firing pin safety, and move the striker forward, quite a few can't figure it out. Its frustrating, because it is definitely a new problem that didn't happen with the old models. I didn't look, but I wonder if the new firing pin safety is missing the rounded edge that the old ones have. I'm still hoping the jamming problem will take care of itself. |
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The striker has to be in it's most forward position or it will not go on. Push down on the plunger on the underside of the frame and push the striker forward. Took me a few times to figure it out and a whole lotta of WTF's as well. Other than that, I love my new Gen4. Hoping to go to the range later on today and burn through some more ammo.
Its funny, but I figured that out today. If it was just one gun, I wouldn't have a problem. I have large groups of people all trying to re-assemble at the same time. Even after I show them how to push the firing pin safety, and move the striker forward, quite a few can't figure it out. Its frustrating, because it is definitely a new problem that didn't happen with the old models. I didn't look, but I wonder if the new firing pin safety is missing the rounded edge that the old ones have. I'm still hoping the jamming problem will take care of itself. Not sure what jamming problem you're talking about. I've heard of a few people having some problems and even more that haven't. It seems to me that certain people are spreading the "issues" all over the net, thus making it look more widespread than it is.  I'm one of the ones that hasn't had one malfunction
unless you count the staged tap rack bang drill. My gen4 g17 has over 500 trouble free rounds through it. Just got back from the range and once again, she didn't disappoint ran like a champ. 
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Not sure what jamming problem you're talking about. I've heard of a few people having some problems and even more that haven't. It seems to me that certain people are spreading the "issues" all over the net, thus making it look more widespread than it is. I'm one of the ones that hasn't had one malfunction
unless you count the staged tap rack bang drill. My gen4 g17 has over 500 trouble free rounds through it. Just got back from the range and once again, she didn't disappoint ran like a champ.
I have never said a bad word about Glocks before. I have 25 new Glock 17s on the range at a time. When they are limp wristed, you end up with the same jam every time. You end up with a live round partially stuck, so tap, rack, bang, wont work. You have to drop the magazine. Like I said, I'm hoping things will loosen up a little, and the problem will go away. I just find it interesting that the new model is having difficulties that I never saw with the old models. |
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The new glock 4th generation magazine release sucks. I shot a friends 4th gen glock 17 and the mag release is so big that it is way too easy to accidently drop the magazine. Oversize mag release buttons are something for competion, not on a street gun. Just another example of trying to fix something that doesn't need fixing.
Dumb move Glock. |
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The new glock 4th generation magazine release sucks. I shot a friends 4th gen glock 17 and the mag release is so big that it is way too easy to accidently drop the magazine. Oversize mag release buttons are something for competion, not on a street gun. Just another example of trying to fix something that doesn't need fixing. Dumb move Glock. Funny, I ran 1300 rounds through my gen 4 and a magpul course this past weekend and have probably another 500 or so through it outside of the course. Not one dropped mag, and not one malf aside from the second round where I was limp wristing it as much as possible while maintaining some level of safety. Since then, I have not been able to get it to repeat the problem, and I have tried very hard. Mines been 100% reliable, and the mags stay put just the way they're supposed to. If you're dropping mags, its because your grip is fucked up, not the gun itself. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the magazine release. |
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Quoted: I find them essential for the G20/21Quoted: The new glock 4th generation magazine release sucks. I shot a friends 4th gen glock 17 and the mag release is so big that it is way too easy to accidently drop the magazine. Oversize mag release buttons are something for competion, not on a street gun. Just another example of trying to fix something that doesn't need fixing. Dumb move Glock. Funny, I ran 1300 rounds through my gen 4 and a magpul course this past weekend and have probably another 500 or so through it outside of the course. Not one dropped mag, and not one malf aside from the second round where I was limp wristing it as much as possible while maintaining some level of safety. Since then, I have not been able to get it to repeat the problem, and I have tried very hard. Mines been 100% reliable, and the mags stay put just the way they're supposed to. If you're dropping mags, its because your grip is fucked up, not the gun itself. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the magazine release. |