Posted: 6/1/2004 7:59:34 PM EDT
| A lot of people throughout this site love to refer to Glock KB's at every opportunity. Where could I look to find info about these incidents? I have only heard specifically of one, and it involved one of the first .357 Sigs that were made. Is there some large rash of problems that I haven't heard about, or is it being exagerated? Thanks in advance for any info. |
Any gun can be blown up from a bad reload. |
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Charlestown, Indiana Police department had 3 blow up in a day of qualifying. They were all .40's. Turned out to be a batch of bad Federal Hydroshocks. Federal immediately bought them 3 new pistols and replaced all their ammo with twice as much. You would think a bunch of operators like that would stop after the first or second KB.  Bob |
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Never had any problem with reloads in a 17. I just keep the loads relatively conservative, and I have shot over 2000 of these rounds last year alone without any problems. *9mm 124 grain Berrys JRN, Small Winchester Primer, and 7.3 grains of Blue Dot. 1.135" COL (Straight from the speer manual) *I accept no responsibility for any damages, death, or injury if you utilize this load. I have also used reloads in a model 21 without any issues. I suspect this is because the .45 ACP (up to 21,000 PSI as i recall) is a relatively low pressure cartridge compared to .40s and 10mms (35,000 PSI maximum for the .40 and 37,500 PSI for the 10mm). Of course the 9mm is a 35,000 PSI maximum cartridge as well but the unsupported surface area of the casing in the camber is smaller thant the .40 or 10mm. From what I have gathered the issue almost always effects the .40 and 10mm models, however, I also understand that some aftermarket drop in barrels will solve this issue if you are committed to using reloads. |
| I have a Glock 23 that just broke the 5k mark not too long ago. It is still banging. Any gun can blow up. Guns having catastrophic failures are generally caused by ammo case failures. I have not seen much on it but I have heard if they discharge out of battery that they will explode. I have not looked into it much but it seems possible. I have seen pictures of Glocks, Hks, Smiths, AR-15's, and AK-47's. The list goes on. Glock seems to be the most loved and hated gun on the market. As far as the whole Glock KB thing I think it is a bunch of BS. I am not saying it does not happen but I think it is blown way out of proportion. |
That's my opinion as well. That's why I wondered if there was anything concrete to back it up, or if it was just Glock-hating at its worst. It reminds me of how maligned the Beretta was after the Navy Seal "stories" became public. My Glock 23 has 10,000+ through it and it has functioned 100% everytime I've pulled the trigger. Thanks for the info and opinions, everyone. |
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Gun manufacturers say not to use reloaded ammunition, not because it is more dangerous, but because the handloaded ammo is mfg. out of control. At least Winchester, Federal, Remington, etc. are insured against ammo manufacturing defects. Manufacturers don't have to worry about some garage monkey blowing up his gun and getting sued because he wasn't following proper handloading procedures. I handload for all my guns, except the .22 LR. If I blow up a gun, it is my fault. This ensures that I pay careful attention to what I am doing! |
I trust my handloads more than factory ammunition. I know exactly what is going into each round. There have been plenty of instances of bad factory ammnuition. At least I can see with my own eyes how my ammo is manufactured. |
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Its RARE and when it does happen its usually in .40 S&W guns. Im a firm believer that its a combination of a cartridge that rides the line of being over pressured, and chambers that dont offer enough support at the case web. I wouldnt lose any sleep over it. Given the sheer numbers of Glocks out there, its a non-issue for most people. |