Posted: 11/14/2009 7:01:49 AM EDT
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If it were really perfect then why does it need new "generations?" Same reason that the Mac computer has different generations.... Advances in technology and innovation. So Jesus needs to be reincarnated? 
J/k. I think Glock is day late and a dollar short if they're just now getting around to configurable grip panels. They should have hopped on the bandwagon when the P99 came out. S&W would have never had an opening. |
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If it were really perfect then why does it need new "generations?" Same reason that the Mac computer has different generations.... Advances in technology and innovation. So Jesus needs to be reincarnated?
J/k. I think Glock is day late and a dollar short if they're just now getting around to configurable grip panels. They should have hopped on the bandwagon when the P99 came out. S&W would have never had an opening. I think they waiting because a change like this few years ago might have hurt the LE sales. LE does not like change and they want proven technology and reliability in any condition before anything else. I agree also they took to long but I have no problem with the grips on Glocks. |
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All true, and they should have had a pistol caliber carbine pre 9/11, every dept in the US would have bought one. When depts got smart and decided on rifle calibers and had tons of DHS money to spend, Glock should have jumped in with a piston AR and glock engineering. Now everyone has that. BUT, at the same time, they can't stop. They have to make some new products and get back in. They are happy with their size and profit, obviously or they would have seen this coming. Still, they have to continue to improve their product just like everyone else. |
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http://accurateshooter.wordpress.com/2009/10/25/redesigned-gen-4-glocks-slated-for-2010-release/ Glock has announced that it will introduce a new “Fourth Generation” Glock handgun with an interchangeable grip back-straps and improved ergonomics. The new “GEN-4″ Glock will probably be unveiled at the January 2010 SHOT Show in Las Vegas, though Glock hasn’t commited to a SHOT Show release. According to the Guns, Holsters & Gear Blog, “[GEN-4] Glocks are rumored to have a textured finish that is not nearly as aggressive as the RTF2 introduced at the 2009 SHOT Show. The new finish is said to be rougher than the prior generations, but easier on the hands and clothes than the RTF2.” Glock has been hugely successful selling polymer-framed handguns to the law enforcement, military, and civilian markets. While Glocks enjoy an enviable reputation for durability and reliability, for many handgunners, Glock ergonomics are second rate. This editor has personally trained novice shooters with both a Glock 17 and Sig p226 9mm. More often than not, when the novices switch from the Glock to the Sig, their 10-yard groups shrink from basketball size to softball size — primarily because of the superior Sig grip size and shape. That’s not to say that Glocks are not accurate — they can be very accurate — it’s just that the Glock grip is far from ideal for many shooters. For decades Glock has stubbornly refused to redesign or improve the grip on Glock handguns (other than adding finger grooves of questionable utility). Meanwhile, Beretta, Smith & Wesson, and Walther have offered polymer-framed handguns with more comfortable, ergonomic grips fitted with interchangeable grip back-straps. These “swappable” back-straps come in different sizes to provide a better, more custom fit for the shooter. Women with small hands, in particular, benefit from a thinner back-strap. The success of Smith & Wesson in securing large police contracts for its adjustable-gripped, S&W M&P pistol has finally prompted Glock to come up with a major grip redesign. Glock has been losing market share as police departments nationwide have traded in their Glocks in favor of the more ergonomic Smith M&Ps. |
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a texture less rough than the RTF2, with interchangeable backstraps http://accurateshooter.wordpress.com/2009/10/25/redesigned-gen-4-glocks-slated-for-2010-release/ Glock has announced that it will introduce a new “Fourth Generation” Glock handgun with an interchangeable grip back-straps and improved ergonomics. The new “GEN-4″ Glock will probably be unveiled at the January 2010 SHOT Show in Las Vegas, though Glock hasn’t commited to a SHOT Show release. According to the Guns, Holsters & Gear Blog, “[GEN-4] Glocks are rumored to have a textured finish that is not nearly as aggressive as the RTF2 introduced at the 2009 SHOT Show. The new finish is said to be rougher than the prior generations, but easier on the hands and clothes than the RTF2.” Glock has been hugely successful selling polymer-framed handguns to the law enforcement, military, and civilian markets. While Glocks enjoy an enviable reputation for durability and reliability, for many handgunners, Glock ergonomics are second rate. This editor has personally trained novice shooters with both a Glock 17 and Sig p226 9mm. More often than not, when the novices switch from the Glock to the Sig, their 10-yard groups shrink from basketball size to softball size — primarily because of the superior Sig grip size and shape. That’s not to say that Glocks are not accurate — they can be very accurate — it’s just that the Glock grip is far from ideal for many shooters. For decades Glock has stubbornly refused to redesign or improve the grip on Glock handguns (other than adding finger grooves of questionable utility). Meanwhile, Beretta, Smith & Wesson, and Walther have offered polymer-framed handguns with more comfortable, ergonomic grips fitted with interchangeable grip back-straps. These “swappable” back-straps come in different sizes to provide a better, more custom fit for the shooter. Women with small hands, in particular, benefit from a thinner back-strap. The success of Smith & Wesson in securing large police contracts for its adjustable-gripped, S&W M&P pistol has finally prompted Glock to come up with a major grip redesign. Glock has been losing market share as police departments nationwide have traded in their Glocks in favor of the more ergonomic Smith M&Ps. Exactly the opposite for me. |
| I do a Brett Farve every other day between getting 2 of the next generation Glock models 17 or 19's comming out at SHOT or getting 2 of the S&W M&P PT limited run 9mm pistols. I can't really decide till i actually hold one of the next generation Glocks comming out. I think the S&W M&P has the potential to be as good as the Glock in durability and reliability and i think they are real close but my gut tells me they are not quite there yet. |
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a texture less rough than the RTF2, with interchangeable backstraps http://accurateshooter.wordpress.com/2009/10/25/redesigned-gen-4-glocks-slated-for-2010-release/ Glock has announced that it will introduce a new “Fourth Generation” Glock handgun with an interchangeable grip back-straps and improved ergonomics. The new “GEN-4″ Glock will probably be unveiled at the January 2010 SHOT Show in Las Vegas, though Glock hasn’t commited to a SHOT Show release. According to the Guns, Holsters & Gear Blog, “[GEN-4] Glocks are rumored to have a textured finish that is not nearly as aggressive as the RTF2 introduced at the 2009 SHOT Show. The new finish is said to be rougher than the prior generations, but easier on the hands and clothes than the RTF2.” Glock has been hugely successful selling polymer-framed handguns to the law enforcement, military, and civilian markets. While Glocks enjoy an enviable reputation for durability and reliability, for many handgunners, Glock ergonomics are second rate. This editor has personally trained novice shooters with both a Glock 17 and Sig p226 9mm. More often than not, when the novices switch from the Glock to the Sig, their 10-yard groups shrink from basketball size to softball size — primarily because of the superior Sig grip size and shape. That’s not to say that Glocks are not accurate — they can be very accurate — it’s just that the Glock grip is far from ideal for many shooters. For decades Glock has stubbornly refused to redesign or improve the grip on Glock handguns (other than adding finger grooves of questionable utility). Meanwhile, Beretta, Smith & Wesson, and Walther have offered polymer-framed handguns with more comfortable, ergonomic grips fitted with interchangeable grip back-straps. These “swappable” back-straps come in different sizes to provide a better, more custom fit for the shooter. Women with small hands, in particular, benefit from a thinner back-strap. The success of Smith & Wesson in securing large police contracts for its adjustable-gripped, S&W M&P pistol has finally prompted Glock to come up with a major grip redesign. Glock has been losing market share as police departments nationwide have traded in their Glocks in favor of the more ergonomic Smith M&Ps. i like my glock better then the sig 226 ,i traded my sig 226 for a glock23 ,best thing i ever did & my grops were plate size & more at ten yards with sig now their 3-4 inches i |
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a texture less rough than the RTF2, with interchangeable backstraps http://accurateshooter.wordpress.com/2009/10/25/redesigned-gen-4-glocks-slated-for-2010-release/ Glock has announced that it will introduce a new “Fourth Generation” Glock handgun with an interchangeable grip back-straps and improved ergonomics. The new “GEN-4″ Glock will probably be unveiled at the January 2010 SHOT Show in Las Vegas, though Glock hasn’t commited to a SHOT Show release. According to the Guns, Holsters & Gear Blog, “[GEN-4] Glocks are rumored to have a textured finish that is not nearly as aggressive as the RTF2 introduced at the 2009 SHOT Show. The new finish is said to be rougher than the prior generations, but easier on the hands and clothes than the RTF2.” Glock has been hugely successful selling polymer-framed handguns to the law enforcement, military, and civilian markets. While Glocks enjoy an enviable reputation for durability and reliability, for many handgunners, Glock ergonomics are second rate. This editor has personally trained novice shooters with both a Glock 17 and Sig p226 9mm. More often than not, when the novices switch from the Glock to the Sig, their 10-yard groups shrink from basketball size to softball size — primarily because of the superior Sig grip size and shape. That’s not to say that Glocks are not accurate — they can be very accurate — it’s just that the Glock grip is far from ideal for many shooters. For decades Glock has stubbornly refused to redesign or improve the grip on Glock handguns (other than adding finger grooves of questionable utility). Meanwhile, Beretta, Smith & Wesson, and Walther have offered polymer-framed handguns with more comfortable, ergonomic grips fitted with interchangeable grip back-straps. These “swappable” back-straps come in different sizes to provide a better, more custom fit for the shooter. Women with small hands, in particular, benefit from a thinner back-strap. The success of Smith & Wesson in securing large police contracts for its adjustable-gripped, S&W M&P pistol has finally prompted Glock to come up with a major grip redesign. Glock has been losing market share as police departments nationwide have traded in their Glocks in favor of the more ergonomic Smith M&Ps. that fucking blows. one of the things i love about the glocks is that they've resisted the "gadget grips". i don't want parts that can break, fall off, or be lost that serve such a simple purpose - a grip. there is no reason to make it any more complicated than that. i swear it's only a matter of time until one of these manufacturers puts a set of fold-out scissors and a toothpick in the grips... 
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a texture less rough than the RTF2, with interchangeable backstraps http://accurateshooter.wordpress.com/2009/10/25/redesigned-gen-4-glocks-slated-for-2010-release/ Glock has announced that it will introduce a new “Fourth Generation” Glock handgun with an interchangeable grip back-straps and improved ergonomics. The new “GEN-4″ Glock will probably be unveiled at the January 2010 SHOT Show in Las Vegas, though Glock hasn’t commited to a SHOT Show release. According to the Guns, Holsters & Gear Blog, “[GEN-4] Glocks are rumored to have a textured finish that is not nearly as aggressive as the RTF2 introduced at the 2009 SHOT Show. The new finish is said to be rougher than the prior generations, but easier on the hands and clothes than the RTF2.” Glock has been hugely successful selling polymer-framed handguns to the law enforcement, military, and civilian markets. While Glocks enjoy an enviable reputation for durability and reliability, for many handgunners, Glock ergonomics are second rate. This editor has personally trained novice shooters with both a Glock 17 and Sig p226 9mm. More often than not, when the novices switch from the Glock to the Sig, their 10-yard groups shrink from basketball size to softball size — primarily because of the superior Sig grip size and shape. That’s not to say that Glocks are not accurate — they can be very accurate — it’s just that the Glock grip is far from ideal for many shooters. For decades Glock has stubbornly refused to redesign or improve the grip on Glock handguns (other than adding finger grooves of questionable utility). Meanwhile, Beretta, Smith & Wesson, and Walther have offered polymer-framed handguns with more comfortable, ergonomic grips fitted with interchangeable grip back-straps. These “swappable” back-straps come in different sizes to provide a better, more custom fit for the shooter. Women with small hands, in particular, benefit from a thinner back-strap. The success of Smith & Wesson in securing large police contracts for its adjustable-gripped, S&W M&P pistol has finally prompted Glock to come up with a major grip redesign. Glock has been losing market share as police departments nationwide have traded in their Glocks in favor of the more ergonomic Smith M&Ps. that fucking blows. one of the things i love about the glocks is that they've resisted the "gadget grips". i don't want parts that can break, fall off, or be lost that serve such a simple purpose - a grip. there is no reason to make it any more complicated than that. i swear it's only a matter of time until one of these manufacturers puts a set of fold-out scissors and a toothpick in the grips...
Just look at the bright side. This just means that after the new Gen. 4 Glocks come out, the market will be flooded with slightly used Gen. 3s for great prices as everyone trades them in to have the latest and greatest. I personally have never had a problem with the Glock grip. |
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Just look at the bright side. This just means that after the new Gen. 4 Glocks come out, the market will be flooded with slightly used Gen. 3s for great prices as everyone trades them in to have the latest and greatest. I personally have never had a problem with the Glock grip. This would be nice. Or even nicer, if the 4th gen release convinces some of those pesky people holding on to their 2nd gens to sell them off! |
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Just look at the bright side. This just means that after the new Gen. 4 Glocks come out, the market will be flooded with slightly used Gen. 3s for great prices as everyone trades them in to have the latest and greatest. I personally have never had a problem with the Glock grip. This would be nice. Or even nicer, if the 4th gen release convinces some of those pesky people holding on to their 2nd gens to sell them off! Why are 2nd gens desirable? As collectors items (serious question)? |
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*snip* Just look at the bright side. This just means that after the new Gen. 4 Glocks come out, the market will be flooded with slightly used Gen. 3s for great prices as everyone trades them in to have the latest and greatest. I personally have never had a problem with the Glock grip. truth. |
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*snip* Just look at the bright side. This just means that after the new Gen. 4 Glocks come out, the market will be flooded with slightly used Gen. 3s for great prices as everyone trades them in to have the latest and greatest. I personally have never had a problem with the Glock grip. I hope so. I could use another G19, 2 G26's, a G30, and a G21. No stupid SF's either I want the big boys as I have big hands :) Unfortunately I doubt it will play out that way so in reality I want a G21 and a G26 3rd gen using my discount and I'll be happy. |
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that fucking blows. one of the things i love about the glocks is that they've resisted the "gadget grips". i don't want parts that can break, fall off, or be lost that serve such a simple purpose - a grip. there is no reason to make it any more complicated than that. i swear it's only a matter of time until one of these manufacturers puts a set of fold-out scissors and a toothpick in the grips... Just get the config that you like/want and epoxy it on. |
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that fucking blows. one of the things i love about the glocks is that they've resisted the "gadget grips". i don't want parts that can break, fall off, or be lost that serve such a simple purpose - a grip. there is no reason to make it any more complicated than that. i swear it's only a matter of time until one of these manufacturers puts a set of fold-out scissors and a toothpick in the grips... Just get the config that you like/want and epoxy it on. if i was into new guns that require an application of epoxy, i'd be a 1911 man. 
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a texture less rough than the RTF2, with interchangeable backstraps http://accurateshooter.wordpress.com/2009/10/25/redesigned-gen-4-glocks-slated-for-2010-release/ Glock has announced that it will introduce a new “Fourth Generation” Glock handgun with an interchangeable grip back-straps and improved ergonomics. The new “GEN-4″ Glock will probably be unveiled at the January 2010 SHOT Show in Las Vegas, though Glock hasn’t commited to a SHOT Show release. According to the Guns, Holsters & Gear Blog, “[GEN-4] Glocks are rumored to have a textured finish that is not nearly as aggressive as the RTF2 introduced at the 2009 SHOT Show. The new finish is said to be rougher than the prior generations, but easier on the hands and clothes than the RTF2.” Glock has been hugely successful selling polymer-framed handguns to the law enforcement, military, and civilian markets. While Glocks enjoy an enviable reputation for durability and reliability, for many handgunners, Glock ergonomics are second rate. This editor has personally trained novice shooters with both a Glock 17 and Sig p226 9mm. More often than not, when the novices switch from the Glock to the Sig, their 10-yard groups shrink from basketball size to softball size — primarily because of the superior Sig grip size and shape. That’s not to say that Glocks are not accurate — they can be very accurate — it’s just that the Glock grip is far from ideal for many shooters. For decades Glock has stubbornly refused to redesign or improve the grip on Glock handguns (other than adding finger grooves of questionable utility). Meanwhile, Beretta, Smith & Wesson, and Walther have offered polymer-framed handguns with more comfortable, ergonomic grips fitted with interchangeable grip back-straps. These “swappable” back-straps come in different sizes to provide a better, more custom fit for the shooter. Women with small hands, in particular, benefit from a thinner back-strap. The success of Smith & Wesson in securing large police contracts for its adjustable-gripped, S&W M&P pistol has finally prompted Glock to come up with a major grip redesign. Glock has been losing market share as police departments nationwide have traded in their Glocks in favor of the more ergonomic Smith M&Ps. that fucking blows. one of the things i love about the glocks is that they've resisted the "gadget grips". i don't want parts that can break, fall off, or be lost that serve such a simple purpose - a grip. there is no reason to make it any more complicated than that. i swear it's only a matter of time until one of these manufacturers puts a set of fold-out scissors and a toothpick in the grips...
America is so great that you have the right to not buy it. 
and look at the bright side, if you want another glock used ones will save you money. WIN-WIN.
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Interchangeable backstraps, slimmer frames, dual recoil springs, front cocking serrations, different magazine catch, different frame texture. If this is true, it sounds like there's a pretty good chance that the 4th gens won't fit in all the Glock holsters I have. This is a serious drawback for me. Also, it sounds like there may be more than a few parts that will not interchange between the 3rd and 4th generations. I've also got a lot of parts stocked up. I may not be too quick to make the switch. |
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Interchangeable backstraps, slimmer frames, dual recoil springs, front cocking serrations, different magazine catch, different frame texture. That's an HK.....  That's the first thing that came to my mind as well. Except ones striker fired and one isn't , |
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Interchangeable backstraps, slimmer frames, dual recoil springs, front cocking serrations, different magazine catch, different frame texture. That's an HK..... That's the first thing that came to my mind as well. Except ones striker fired and one isn't , and one will cost half as much as the other |
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Interchangeable backstraps, slimmer frames, dual recoil springs, front cocking serrations, different magazine catch, different frame texture. That's an HK..... That's the first thing that came to my mind as well. Except ones striker fired and one isn't , and one will cost half as much as the other And one company doesn't think you suck and hates you. 
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If this is true, it sounds like there's a pretty good chance that the 4th gens won't fit in all the Glock holsters I have. This is a serious drawback for me. Also, it sounds like there may be more than a few parts that will not interchange between the 3rd and 4th generations. I've also got a lot of parts stocked up. I may not be too quick to make the switch. I also don't think that Glock will just discontinue the 3rd Generation pistols like they did the 2nd generation (which, at least in my area, are hard as heck to find used). I'll get the lowdown when I got to SHOT in January. I'm pretty psyched to see what they've done for the 4th gen guns. |