Posted: 10/13/2009 11:25:47 AM EDT
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So, I bought a used Glock earlier this year. I'v shot it a few times and all was well and good. It's a glock 26. Well I ordered a 12 round magazine and two 17 round magazines, all made by glock. When I took it shooting this weekend, the 17 round magazines were jamming horribly. 3-4 jams each time I emptied one. I was making sure I held my arms rigid so I was not causing the jam myself.
It looks like the casing was getting caught in the slide. I'm not sure what its called, but it was always stuck in the moving part on the left side of the slide. Does anyone know if this could be an issue with the slide, or perhaps the magazines. I kept them loaded to lessen the spring tension for about a month before shooting them, but I don't think that would hurt them. The fact that my 10 and 12 round magazines didn't jam may be conincidence... I'm not totally sure. Any ideas on the problem? Can a magazine issue cause a jam on ejection? |
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The 17 rounders are factory glock and I was shooting Winchester white box bulk 9mm. Since the G26 has a short handle, I was gripping the magazine itself. Would that cause a jam? My dad who also had a G26 and 17 round magazines didn't have jamming problems... Could be this. The 17 round mag can move around in the mag well quite a bit on the G26. If you've moved it enough by gripping it to take the feed lips out of the usual postion, you may well have issues. This seems more likely since your 10 and 12 rounders worked fine. |
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The 17 rounders are factory glock and I was shooting Winchester white box bulk 9mm. Since the G26 has a short handle, I was gripping the magazine itself. Would that cause a jam? My dad who also had a G26 and 17 round magazines didn't have jamming problems... Bet that's your problem. |
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It sounds like a magazine problem with the 17 round magazines. I would check two things: Make sure that when you insert the 17 round mag into the gun, the mag does not go past the mag catch/release and ride higher than it is suppose to in the frame; Glock has made several magazine design changes over the years, make sure that the 17 rounders you purchased are compatable with your gun.
One last thing, I would recommend a very good cleaning of your guns extractor. If you do not have the knowledge on how to clean it, take it to a qualified person who can perform the task. |
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Thanks everyone. I may try ordering some mag extension sleeves to keep them from moving when I fire them. I may also let the local gunsmith take a look at the extractor when I have time to head that way. This is nonsense - the gun should run as it is, regardless of magazine length and whether you are "gripping" it. Junk like the mag extension sleeve are just a waste of $$$ IMHO. The problem you describe does not sound like a magazine problem at all (unless the mag is rubbing on the slide for some strange reason - does this feel like its the case ?). Did you try your dad's "good" mags in your gun ? FTEj malfunctions like this are usually caused by (1) limp wristing, (2) something rubbing on the slide, (3) wrong/defective recoil spring assembly, (4) wrong/defective ejector, (5) wrong/dirty/defective extractor assembly, or (6) weak ammo. I suggest you try a different ammo load before you do anything else... some ammo may not have the power to reliably cycle the slide (and WWB is not exactly top-tier ammo). In particular, try a heavier bullet - if you are running 115gr now, jump up to 124gr. |
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Every malfunction I've had with my Glock 19 had been ammo related, specifically the bullet ogive design on the Berry's HP 124gr Plated bullets. The ogive on the bullet is more akin to the angle of ,40SW truncated cone flat point than the more conventional round nose 9x19 ogive angle.
I've seated them out longer, and shorter and they still make my Glock 19 choke. I've run numerous other bullet designs in my reloads as well as factory ammo and have found no other problems. Luckily I also have a Sig P226 that I can dispose of the remaining 500 bullets or so and not reorder them. |
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I was shooting Winchester white box bulk 9mm
This is most likely your problem, try some better ammo and see if it still happens. The recent production WWB ammo seems to be pretty bad. I would agree with this assesment. Eliminate variables................try other types of ammo. While I've occasionally heard reports like this, using fullsized mags with subcompacts, it seems very rare. Most folks who use fullsize mags in subcompacts report 100% reliability. |
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I was shooting Winchester white box bulk 9mm
This is most likely your problem, try some better ammo and see if it still happens. The recent production WWB ammo seems to be pretty bad. That's suprising and almost hard for me to believe. I've shot literally thousands of rounds of WWB and never had a problem. It's my favorite plinking round. Hell I've shot about 500rds of Wolf now without issue and there is no doubt in my mind that the WWB I've used is better then Wolf. That said, all the WWB I've shot is well over a year old and regardless, if I had problems, changing ammo is always one of the things I would try to TS the issue. Is there a thread someplace about this new, crappy WWB? I'd like to read about what issues people have been having? |
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The 17 rounders are factory glock and I was shooting Winchester white box bulk 9mm. Since the G26 has a short handle, I was gripping the magazine itself. Would that cause a jam? My dad who also had a G26 and 17 round magazines didn't have jamming problems... Bet that's your problem. +1 Same thing with my G27, don't try to use the bigger mags with the sub's. Call Glock, Like I did. They will tell you. The larger mag exchanges are for emergencies only. |
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I was shooting Winchester white box bulk 9mm
This is most likely your problem, try some better ammo and see if it still happens. The recent production WWB ammo seems to be pretty bad. That's suprising and almost hard for me to believe. I've shot literally thousands of rounds of WWB and never had a problem. It's my favorite plinking round. Hell I've shot about 500rds of Wolf now without issue and there is no doubt in my mind that the WWB I've used is better then Wolf. That said, all the WWB I've shot is well over a year old and regardless, if I had problems, changing ammo is always one of the things I would try to TS the issue. Is there a thread someplace about this new, crappy WWB? I'd like to read about what issues people have been having? I recently spoke to Glock about a frame recall and asked them if they had any reports of ammo related problems lately, he replied they had and most had been WWB related. I have had a couple pieces of brass get stuck between the top of the barrel and the breech face, also have had rounds not go off after multiple strikes, and have had problems with ejection. All of this was with WWB in my G34 that had been 100% with everything else. Others I shoot with have had more problems than usual with the recent WWB. |
...yea, so he can have a half-a**ed POC
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So, I bought a used Glock earlier this year. I'v shot it a few times and all was well and good. It's a glock 26. Well I ordered a 12 round magazine and two 17 round magazines, all made by glock. When I took it shooting this weekend, the 17 round magazines were jamming horribly. 3-4 jams each time I emptied one. I was making sure I held my arms rigid so I was not causing the jam myself. It looks like the casing was getting caught in the slide. I'm not sure what its called, but it was always stuck in the moving part on the left side of the slide. Does anyone know if this could be an issue with the slide, or perhaps the magazines. I kept them loaded to lessen the spring tension for about a month before shooting them, but I don't think that would hurt them. The fact that my 10 and 12 round magazines didn't jam may be conincidence... I'm not totally sure. Any ideas on the problem? Can a magazine issue cause a jam on ejection? ok, lets start over; can you post a picture of a "recreated" malf you are having? when you say that the casing was getting stuck in the slide––do you mean that empty casings are wedged in the ejector and slide, or is this live ammo not feeding into the chamber? does your gun work w/ std flush G26 mags? change ammo yet? glock mags are GTG even when fully loaded for a long time |
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You say the gun was bought used. Have you replaced the recoil spring with a new stock one yet? Thats my suggestion as well. How used? Also, try some federal american eagle. I've never found a pistol that wouldn't fire it unless something was wrong...with the pistol itself. Its the "gold standard" I use for determining whether its the gun, or the ammo. I've used 33rd mags in my 26 while putting pressure on the mag, and never had a problem. |