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8/13/2009 8:58:35 PM EDT
I just picked up a Lone Wolf barrel for my model 17, so I can shoot lead bullets.  The problem that I have is, some of my reloaded brass won't fit in the Lone Wolf chamber.  I talked to my master reloading guy, and found out that my brass has a bulge near the bottom of the case.  I was told that this happens to brass that is fired Glock barrel, something about a unsupported chamber.  My question is, does anyone else have this problem, and if so how did you fix the brass case?  I really don't what to through away my brass if I don't have to.
8/14/2009 11:09:31 AM EDT
[#1]
Quoted:
I just picked up a Lone Wolf barrel for my model 17, so I can shoot lead bullets.  The problem that I have is, some of my reloaded brass won't fit in the Lone Wolf chamber.  I talked to my master reloading guy, and found out that my brass has a bulge near the bottom of the case.  I was told that this happens to brass that is fired Glock barrel, something about a unsupported chamber.  My question is, does anyone else have this problem, and if so how did you fix the brass case?  I really don't what to through away my brass if I don't have to.


Don't throw away your brass.

I reload for my 9mm Glocks, and for the conversion barrel for my G23 also.  I use RCBS Carbide dies, never had a problem getting them fully resized.  What kind of dies are you using?

For folks that do experience this problem, there is a die made by EGW, an "undersize" die, that seems to solve the problem.  

Also, Lone Wolf barrels are known to have tight chambers, tighter than the stock Glock barrel.  Mine was, and I reamed it out slightly, as it was sticky even with many factory loads.  After being reamed, it's perfect.  I'm told LWD will do this for free if you send it in, might give them a call.

Or just go with a different set of dies, or the EGW die.

8/14/2009 6:56:55 PM EDT
[#2]
I have a Lone wolf barrel for my G34. Haven't experienced any chambering problems with
my lead reloads (boolits are, for now, commercial cast at .356in dia.). I use Lee dies for this
caliber. Once I get my mold handles in for my Lee mold I plan on sizing those at .357in dia.
Maybe then I'll run into a gremlin. BTW, after sizing I don't see much or any of that "Glock Kiss".
8/15/2009 6:17:10 AM EDT
[#3]
I have the same problem with my LWD 9mm conversion barrel in my G-22.................I acquired a large lot of WCC brass fired from well worn Beretta M9's.............they bulge too.

Get the EGW "U" Die and your problems will be solved...........My RCBS carbide die would not bring the brass down enough to chamber reliably...............turned my Glock into a jam-o-matic.............

The "U" die brings the brass down an extra .001 and that my friend, will do the trick...............
8/15/2009 4:49:57 PM EDT
[#4]
Thanks for all the help guys.  I was using RCBS dies for my reloading.  I guess I'll have to get me a set of the EGW dies and try it out.
8/16/2009 9:40:11 AM EDT
[#5]
All you need is the sizer die from EGW..........continue to use any other of the Dies you have.............I lube my cases............only because I have stuck a few and I was getting tired of "un-sticking" them
8/16/2009 11:23:43 AM EDT
[#6]
I use Lee carbide dies, and have had zero problems. But then it also has the factory crimp die.

Do you use a case gage/gauge?

Are you sure your resizing die is adjusted properly?
8/16/2009 5:19:36 PM EDT
[#7]
Yeah, definitely make sure your resizing die is bottomed out against the ram before you spend money on the EGW die.
8/16/2009 5:37:41 PM EDT
[#8]
Using Dillon carbide dies I have not been able to reclaim Glock fired brass to be used in a Hi-power with a stahl/peters barrel. I end up resizing the brass and checking it in a minimum chamber gauge. I separate the  bulged cases for use in Glocks only.
8/16/2009 5:50:09 PM EDT
[#9]
By all accounts that EGW U die would solve that problem.
8/16/2009 6:00:24 PM EDT
[#10]
The Dillon dies are working fine on the Uzi and MP5 brass though.. :)
8/17/2009 8:05:45 PM EDT
[#11]
Dillon dies on a Forster Co-Ax size the brass fine for a second trip through the same G17.

I haven't set up the 650 for a run of 9mm yet, but I'm going to attempt to once I find a good practice load.  I'll let you all know.
8/17/2009 8:48:15 PM EDT
[#12]
Try 4.8 grns of W231 under a 115 grn jacketed bullet of your choice.  Say, Montana Gold JHP, loaded at OAL of 1.095.  One of my favorite "range" loads.
8/18/2009 5:11:51 PM EDT
[#13]
I'd been running WSF, I didn't see a 231 loading for 115FMJ.. I'll have to do some more research.
8/18/2009 5:15:56 PM EDT
[#14]
WSF is a good powder for 9mm.  I just had a whole bunch of W231 laying around.  There's alot of data available for it, as it's commonly used in 9mm.
9/4/2009 6:19:20 PM EDT
[#15]
Check out the Case Pro 100. Kinda spendy, but an excellent product.



www.casepro100.com
9/6/2009 8:52:17 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
I use Lee carbide dies, and have had zero problems. But then it also has the factory crimp die.

Do you use a case gage/gauge?

Are you sure your resizing die is adjusted properly?


Ditto here - use the same set-up and have had zero issues.

9/9/2009 12:14:30 AM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
Try 4.8 grns of W231 under a 115 grn jacketed bullet of your choice.  Say, Montana Gold JHP, loaded at OAL of 1.095.  One of my favorite "range" loads.


I'm using 4.9 gr. of W231 for my 115 gr. Hornady FMJ's with an AOL of 1.100" and getting about 1160-1180 FPS with no signs of excessive pressure .... is this fairly consistent with your chrony results?

9/9/2009 10:57:51 AM EDT
[#18]
It has been my experience that Lee dies size tighter/smaller than Dillon dies.  Dillon's does are somewhat looser to make their presses run faster smoother.
9/9/2009 4:28:42 PM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Try 4.8 grns of W231 under a 115 grn jacketed bullet of your choice.  Say, Montana Gold JHP, loaded at OAL of 1.095.  One of my favorite "range" loads.


I'm using 4.9 gr. of W231 for my 115 gr. Hornady FMJ's with an AOL of 1.100" and getting about 1160-1180 FPS with no signs of excessive pressure .... is this fairly consistent with your chrony results?



I have no chrono data for those loads.
9/10/2009 5:32:32 PM EDT
[#20]
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It has been my experience that Lee dies size tighter/smaller than Dillon dies.  Dillon's does are somewhat looser to make their presses run faster smoother.

I've been doing a lot of reading\researching about reloading lately trying to figure it all out and one nugget my research has turn up is.. some people have had issues with the Dillion sizing die not completely removing the bulge. The theory is it's because of how how tapered the Dillion sizing die is on the bottom. They are tapered like that to help them run on progessive presses but the trade off is, it doesn't truly size the whole case? I have no idea how much truth there is to that but I would like to know as I am considering getting a 550 with a set of Dillion dies.

9/10/2009 7:09:21 PM EDT
[#21]
I have also seen reports of this problem with Dillon dies, over in the Reloading Forum.

My own RCBS Carbide dies have done great, for many thousands of rounds.  I do load on a single stage though.