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5/31/2009 2:15:06 PM EDT
just took my new Glock 26 to the range to give it a good feel out. shot 75 rounds at 10 yards and my shots were in a loose group about the size of a medium-large paper plate. is this reasonable accuracy to be expected? Am i just a bad shot? is it because im dumb and didn't clean it yet? when i did the shooting portion of my CHL class i used a Glock 19 and got the perfect score, so my basic shooting mechanics are there, what is the issue?

TL;DR my glock 26 had what i think was too big of a group, my fault or gun or ammo (winchester 115 grain fmj)?
5/31/2009 2:49:08 PM EDT
[#1]
My wife carries a Glock 26 and shot a 100 when doing the shooting portion of her handgun carry class.  Out of 20 shooters only her and 3 others shot 100s
and no other females shot a 100.

She says even though others shot 100s hers was the tightest group.

She is very confident in her abilities with this little gun. She loves it!

LB
5/31/2009 2:51:31 PM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
just took my new Glock 26 to the range to give it a good feel out. shot 75 rounds at 10 yards and my shots were in a loose group about the size of a medium-large paper plate. is this reasonable accuracy to be expected? Am i just a bad shot? is it because im dumb and didn't clean it yet? when i did the shooting portion of my CHL class i used a Glock 19 and got the perfect score, so my basic shooting mechanics are there, what is the issue?

TL;DR my glock 26 had what i think was too big of a group, my fault or gun or ammo (winchester 115 grain fmj)?


In my experience with 9mm's and 40SW's, Glocks of all sizes are capable of same mechanical accuracy.  It is simply easier to get the best  results from a 17L versus a 26.

The 26's grip is, obviously, quit a bit different then a 19's and will allow more movement.
5/31/2009 2:56:03 PM EDT
[#3]
To me, thats not many rounds thru it to be passing any kind of judgment.  It does fit the hand a little different than a g19, even if you use grip extensions, so I would just keep shooting.

FWIW, I shoot my 26 better than my 19.
5/31/2009 2:58:54 PM EDT
[#4]
It's probably the difference in the feel of the shorter grip.

Those pistols are very inherently accurate.

Keep workin' at it, do alot of dryfire, etc., and you'll see an improvement.
5/31/2009 3:04:19 PM EDT
[#5]
thank you thank you all keep any comments or tips for improvement up, i'll take all the coaching i can get. just wish i had a range closer to me that let me rapid fire a little, or move.

"I'm better when I move." lol love that movie
5/31/2009 3:16:51 PM EDT
[#6]
I would dry fire then dry fire some more.
5/31/2009 3:39:01 PM EDT
[#7]
My 26 shoots better than the 17 it replaced. It is easily capable of a fist-sized 10 round group at 15 yards. This grouping is with 115 gr Silvertips.
5/31/2009 4:43:27 PM EDT
[#8]
Watch this


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPvMJcmpVsQ
5/31/2009 5:10:16 PM EDT
[#9]
Also another question, does the pinky rest and +2 base plate pinch your finger sometimes when yall shoot your 26s?
5/31/2009 5:20:46 PM EDT
[#10]


It's the only gun I carry, accurate little gun.  I get funny looks too when I use it in action pistol shoots.
5/31/2009 5:36:53 PM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
Also another question, does the pinky rest and +2 base plate pinch your finger sometimes when yall shoot your 26s?


Shooting, no.  Reloading, yes.

Some say that the subcompacts may be more mechanically accurate then the larger Glocks because of the dual recoil spring and other factors.
6/1/2009 5:44:05 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
just took my new Glock 26 to the range to give it a good feel out. shot 75 rounds at 10 yards and my shots were in a loose group about the size of a medium-large paper plate. is this reasonable accuracy to be expected? Am i just a bad shot?


99% of the pistols on the market are FAR more accurate than 99% of the people shooting them. If you're seeing unacceptably large groups odds are that the fault is with you and not with the weapon itself. At 10 yards your G26 should be able to shoot damn near one hole groups if you do your part on the trigger.

The dirty little secret of handguns is that trigger control is 95% of accuracy with one....and that the overwhelming majority of shooters have trigger control that is charitably classified as "poor". This is why it's often quite funny to see people debating the accuracy of X pistol vs. Y pistol because odds are most of the people on either side of the argument are incapable of out-shooting the gun.


is it because im dumb and didn't clean it yet? when i did the shooting portion of my CHL class i used a Glock 19 and got the perfect score, so my basic shooting mechanics are there, what is the issue?


Are you ***SURE*** your basic mechanics are there? 100% positive? How big was the "perfect" zone of your qual target? A lot of qualification targets are WAY too big and lull people into a false sense of security that is usually dashed by a good ol' NRA bullseye target.


TL;DR my glock 26 had what i think was too big of a group, my fault or gun or ammo (winchester 115 grain fmj)?


At 10 yards ANY G26 that goes bang should be capable of shooting a ragged one hole group with almost any ammo.

6/1/2009 8:25:21 AM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:

99% of the pistols on the market are FAR more accurate than 99% of the people shooting them. If you're seeing unacceptably large groups odds are that the fault is with you and not with the weapon itself. At 10 yards your G26 should be able to shoot damn near one hole groups if you do your part on the trigger.

The dirty little secret of handguns is that trigger control is 95% of accuracy with one....and that the overwhelming majority of shooters have trigger control that is charitably classified as "poor". This is why it's often quite funny to see people debating the accuracy of X pistol vs. Y pistol because odds are most of the people on either side of the argument are incapable of out-shooting the gun.

Are you ***SURE*** your basic mechanics are there? 100% positive? How big was the "perfect" zone of your qual target? A lot of qualification targets are WAY too big and lull people into a false sense of security that is usually dashed by a good ol' NRA bullseye target.

At 10 yards ANY G26 that goes bang should be capable of shooting a ragged one hole group with almost any ammo.



Read what John_Wayne777 posted.  Then read it again.  Then, come back tomorrow, and re-read it.

The Fundamentals of Shooting are just that . . . fundamental.  I have heard far too many people bad-mouth or pooh-pooh my participation in NRA High Power Rifle and NRA Bullseye Pistol shooting.  These same people cannot shoot as well as I can.  Many of these people have been Special Operations personnel, active Army, and Law Enforcement personnel.

My G26 is wickedly accurate when I pay attention to the fundamentals.  I almost always only train on NRA B-3 (50' Timed & Rapid Fire) targets downloaded from this online PDF target generator.  If you practice to "aim small/miss small" . . . that's what you'll do on the 2-way range.
6/1/2009 8:46:47 AM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
Also another question, does the pinky rest and +2 base plate pinch your finger sometimes when yall shoot your 26s?


Actually I did experience this on mine.  The little shelf that is supposed to mate up agasint the gun has a corner.  I just used a knife and some sandpaper and took care of it.

6/1/2009 9:20:31 AM EDT
[#15]
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The Fundamentals of Shooting are just that . . . fundamental.  I have heard far too many people bad-mouth or pooh-pooh my participation in NRA High Power Rifle and NRA Bullseye Pistol shooting.  These same people cannot shoot as well as I can.  Many of these people have been Special Operations personnel, active Army, and Law Enforcement personnel.


I've seen some of the same stuff.

Bullseye shooting is often criticized, but it is marksmanship in its purest form. Nobody is so high speed that they don't need to improve on or maintain their proficiency on the fundamentals. The conditions that lead up to taking a shot may vary, but the basic truth that at the moment you need to break a shot you will need an accurate sighting reference and proper control of the trigger seems to be lost on many people, even well meaning people who know what color the boat house at Hereford is.

6/1/2009 9:37:59 AM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:

Are you ***SURE*** your basic mechanics are there? 100% positive? How big was the "perfect" zone of your qual target? A lot of qualification targets are WAY too big and lull people into a false sense of security that is usually dashed by a good ol' NRA bullseye target.



when i did the qual with the glock 19 i put all my shots within a circle not much larger than my own fist.


soon as im out of college and making some form of real cash , i want to start practicing a lot more.
6/1/2009 9:51:52 AM EDT
[#17]
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soon as im out of college and making some form of real cash , i want to start practicing a lot more.


No excuse!

In college (and on a shoestring budget), I was reloading 9mm on a Dillon 550.  I shot my P226 and my Ruger Mk II religiously.

You need to get yourself a good 22LR target pistol (ie, one with a half-decent trigger and adjustable sights) and get your happy ass out to your local NRA Bullseye league.  There is absolutely no excuse not to shoot in some sort of 22-cal BE competition on some sort of regular basis.
6/1/2009 10:18:42 AM EDT
[#18]
SIR YES SIR!
6/1/2009 11:08:38 AM EDT
[#19]
I can put 20 rounds in rapid succession in a fist sized group with my 26.
6/1/2009 1:49:03 PM EDT
[#20]
Don't forget to make every shot count and.....shoot small, miss small.  As gay as it sounds it's true, your bullseye should be as small as you can see.
6/1/2009 4:47:50 PM EDT
[#21]
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I can put 20 rounds in rapid succession in a fist sized group with my 26.


i wasn't trying to say i'm good, just verifying im not super horribad terrible blind as bat guy.... but thanx for making me feel as such.
6/1/2009 5:30:00 PM EDT
[#22]
With a glock 27  I can rag out the bullseye and put round after round through the hole I make. Usually a 1-2 inch hole. The 26 is just as accurate if not more because of the reduced recoil.
6/1/2009 8:53:31 PM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I can put 20 rounds in rapid succession in a fist sized group with my 26.


i wasn't trying to say i'm good, just verifying im not super horribad terrible blind as bat guy.... but thanx for making me feel as such.


You're probably not as bad as that sounds, the 26 is hard to grip due to the small grip size so it's not surprising that you shot a 19 better.  You just have to practice with your 26 and you'll get the hang of it.
6/1/2009 10:09:51 PM EDT
[#24]
just a joke enigma hehe, i didn't really take any offense, i know i just need more time behind the trigger. shooting isn't like fighting hand to hand, which came naturally to me, shooting on the other hand, does not haha
6/2/2009 5:52:19 AM EDT
[#25]
I have been amazed at how well the 26 shoots - like it was said above when I shoot at smaller targets my groups tighten up because I am actually taking my time, breath control, trigger squeeze, etc.  It's a great shooting pistol!
6/5/2009 3:18:47 AM EDT
[#26]
Quoted:
Quoted:

soon as im out of college and making some form of real cash , i want to start practicing a lot more.


No excuse!

In college (and on a shoestring budget), I was reloading 9mm on a Dillon 550.  I shot my P226 and my Ruger Mk II religiously.

You need to get yourself a good 22LR target pistol (ie, one with a half-decent trigger and adjustable sights) and get your happy ass out to your local NRA Bullseye league.  There is absolutely no excuse not to shoot in some sort of 22-cal BE competition on some sort of regular basis.


+1  - nothing leads to improvement like a good .22, tons of ammo and trigger time, and competition. BTW you can find threads on this board with people wondering why they shoot their G26's better than their G17's.   Better get on this OP
6/10/2009 4:20:29 PM EDT
[#27]
+1 on the 22.

Since buying my Mk III my pistol skills have dramatically improved, mostly because I’m shooting about 5 times more than I did before.