Posted: 5/27/2009 5:38:31 PM EDT
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Does anyone have any experience with a Ciener conversion on a 19
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| I had a Ciener conversion for a Glock 22, and it did not work reliably at all. I believe the problem was with the springs... they have to be perfectly in balance, and the ones in my kit did not hold their temper. When I asked Ciener for help, I basically got the finger. JAC is a total ass, and I cannot recommend buying his products if other viable alternatives exist. In this case, there is the excellent Advantage Arms kit, which I boughts after giving up on the Ciener - my Advantage Arms product is first-rate and works flawlessly. Its also a tack driver, and came with adjustable sights (unlike the Ciener). Do yourself a big favor, learn from the mistakes of others, and buy the Advantage Arms. |
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I have been working for over three years now to get my Ceiner working reliabley on my G19 and G23. I am getting closer, but still not where it should be. I have been getting light primer strikes, no matter what ammo I am using.
I gave up on Ceiner and followed others on this forum and ordered the Adv Arms conversion for my G30. All I can say is wow...much better and it is what a conversion kit should be. Their service was top notch. I got an extra mag, but it came without a spring and follower (missed a step in the assembly apparently). They priority mailed a new one right after I called, and I could hardly get then to stop apologizing for the inconvenience. Opposite of the service you will get from Ceiner. |
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I have been working for over three years now to get my Ceiner working reliabley on my G19 and G23. I am getting closer, but still not where it should be. I have been getting light primer strikes, no matter what ammo I am using. I gave up on Ceiner and followed others on this forum and ordered the Adv Arms conversion for my G30. All I can say is wow...much better and it is what a conversion kit should be. Their service was top notch. I got an extra mag, but it came without a spring and follower (missed a step in the assembly apparently). They priority mailed a new one right after I called, and I could hardly get then to stop apologizing for the inconvenience. Opposite of the service you will get from Ceiner. A couple of friends of mine have Ciener conversion kits for the Glock. We've had to work on all three kits to get them to work. We found the Cieners to be accurate and they rarely had stove pipe type jams. Our problem was getting the pistol to fire any ammo. We traced the problem to two areas. The first thing we noticed was the slide wasn't going completely closed. We found the cut out in the side of the barrel for the extractor was to small. After opening this up to fit the extractor the slide started closing fully. We also noticed the firing pin did not protrude far enough. The firing pin appears to be made out of aluminum and is soft. The repeated dry firing because the slide doesn't lock back on the last round didn't help. We had to lower the shoulder on the firing pin and reshape the tip. Once the firing pin cleared the slide further we can now reliably fire Federal 550 round bulk. Since working on the Cieners they are almost as reliable as the AA. Personally I like the AA kits much better than the Ciener. I have an AA kit for my Glock 35 and a AA kit for my Glock 27. Biggest problem now is finding a AA kit to buy because they are in high demand. I've noticed if I keep the sliding ejector lubed with CLP and polish the inside of the chamber with Flitz occasionally on my AA kit it greatly improves functioning with Federal bulk. |
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I heard back then that the Ciener Glock conversions were having problems so I have an AA conversion and it's been great. No Regrets.
I used to have a Ciener 1911 conversion. About a year out the weld broke on the barrel lug. Unfortunately, Ciener was real hard ass about receipts and the 1 year warantee. Fortunately, the dealer I bought it from couldn't remember if it had been 11 months or 13 months so he made another receipt dated back 11 months. The Ciener was very accurate but they don't have the stand-behind-their-product attitude that most gun manufacturers have. |
