Posted: 5/22/2009 6:11:33 AM EDT
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Kinda cool. Not as awesome as the one Magpul did that folded small enough to fit in a pants pocket but better than nothing. Glock Carbine by Command Arms Accessories  |
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Quoted: Looks like an abortion to me.  Looks like a step in the right direction. I'd take the FMG-9 in a heartbeat but this will do until something better comes along. |
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I wouldn't say it's 100% "never", but looking at it economically from Magpul's standpoint, there's no financial incentive for Magpul to start pulling time/resources from their stocks, magazines, and other sought-after accessories and products while the market is so crazy.
If the AR/EBR market settles down to some semblance of normalcy, then I think you'll start to see some noises about the FMG coming to market. Magpul's answer of "no/maybe/never" is just really a way of saying "Quit asking us, okay?" IMO. They may also be looking for a licensing deal from someone else, that way they can get some income, but don't have to lift a finger themselves. Making any noises about them producing it would deter any potential buyers. |
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Quoted: I wouldn't say it's 100% "never", but looking at it economically from Magpul's standpoint, there's no financial incentive for Magpul to start pulling time/resources from their stocks, magazines, and other sought-after accessories and products while the market is so crazy. If the AR/EBR market settles down to some semblance of normalcy, then I think you'll start to see some noises about the FMG coming to market. Magpul's answer of "no/maybe/never" is just really a way of saying "Quit asking us, okay?" IMO. They may also be looking for a licensing deal from someone else, that way they can get some income, but don't have to lift a finger themselves. Making any noises about them producing it would deter any potential buyers. I hope you're right, but I'm not holding my breath. Just like I'm not holding out for Glock to get off their asses and actually do something innovative again. They haven't done anything too earth shattering in a long time aside from slap a light rail on their frames and add a few more calibers to their product line. |
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Comparing Glock and Magpul is apples and oranges. Magpul is an innovator that keeps coming up with new and exciting things, so there's some reason to expect the FMG out of them IMO. (And they went through the trouble to make that prototype AND display it...)
Glock makes handguns. And then some more handguns. Oh yes.. they also make handguns. 
And the short answer on Glock is the same as above for Magpul, as long as Glocks are selling, there's no reason for them to "innovate". For Glock to come up with a carbine, or a rifle, or whatever "truly innovative" thing it is people seem to want from them, the financial incentive to run the risk and cash outlay of investing in R&D patenting, patent defense, and then all the tooling etc. (Plus a significant portion of it would have to be set up here stateside to get around import bans...) would have to be very certain, and very large. Magpul at least teased us with the FMG, and other products like thtat tiny bullpup 5.56 PDW. Glock has never made noises that they're interested in making anything other than Glocks (the shovels, and the knives...). |
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Kinda cool. Not as awesome as the one Magpul did that folded small enough to fit in a pants pocket but better than nothing. Glock Carbine by Command Arms Accessories http://militarytimes.com/blogs/gearscout/files/2009/05/20090520ll_caa-pistol-rail-500x286.jpg Where does the autobot or decepticon symbol go on that thing? |
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I played with their display model at the '09 SHOT Show. Pretty smart design. What you see in the pic was simple a polymer model. The SHOT Show display was a little more refined. More metal, etc.... Also a nice & small compact weapon system. If it comes out the GLOCK frame will have to be stamped for NFA.
They said that they might have an issue bringing it Stateside. BATFE jumped their shit for the GLOCK Stocks because folks were buying them and making illegal NFA SBRs. |
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No front site? Thats whats great about rails... you can add one. Thanks Capt'n Obvious. 
They went to the trouble to mount a BUIS, figured they'd add a front site. Just say'n. 
Sorry, just being a smartass. I agree though. Maybe mount some MagPul sights.... Dunno what to think of this "thing" yet. I guess I would have to handle one in person. Nathan |
| I do think Glock would be a good company to make a carbine that uses their pistol magazines. I have a CX4, and know a handful of departments that went with it. I think Glock would make some money with a design like that, being it is a very cost effective solution to local municipalities. Having the higher capacity magazines for their pistols, I think would make a more appealing package. |
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I do think Glock would be a good company to make a carbine that uses their pistol magazines. I have a CX4, and know a handful of departments that went with it. I think Glock would make some money with a design like that, being it is a very cost effective solution to local municipalities. Having the higher capacity magazines for their pistols, I think would make a more appealing package. True, but Glock as a company has little impetus to invest (tooling, design, etc. etc.) in such a thing......................................as a business, which is what they are, they're still doing outstanding, filling orders all over the world for their pistols, which continue to be in high demand. And of course they well know that this "weapon role" we're sort of discussing here is well-filled by many current designs made by other companies. I'm a Glock guy...............I'd love to see a Glock-made carbine. If it were anything like their pistols, it would be the shit! But it's not likely to happen anytime soon, if ever. They just don't have the need. ETA: I think we as happy, FREE Americans take for granted the fact that alot of other countries are very prohibitive in what civilians can have access too. The whole "Glock carbine" pipe dream we all talk about would be something mostly marketed to U.S. Civilians....................just not near as profitable as alot of their pistol endeavours, which are marketed and sold the world over to civilians and .mil/LEO also. |
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Quoted: Quoted: I do think Glock would be a good company to make a carbine that uses their pistol magazines. I have a CX4, and know a handful of departments that went with it. I think Glock would make some money with a design like that, being it is a very cost effective solution to local municipalities. Having the higher capacity magazines for their pistols, I think would make a more appealing package. True, but Glock as a company has little impetus to invest (tooling, design, etc. etc.) in such a thing......................................as a business, which is what they are, they're still doing outstanding, filling orders all over the world for their pistols, which continue to be in high demand. And of course they well know that this "weapon role" we're sort of discussing here is well-filled by many current designs made by other companies. I'm a Glock guy...............I'd love to see a Glock-made carbine. If it were anything like their pistols, it would be the shit! But it's not likely to happen anytime soon, if ever. They just don't have the need. ETA: I think we as happy, FREE Americans take for granted the fact that alot of other countries are very prohibitive in what civilians can have access too. The whole "Glock carbine" pipe dream we all talk about would be something mostly marketed to U.S. Civilians....................just not near as profitable as alot of their pistol endeavours, which are marketed and sold the world over to civilians and .mil/LEO also. that, and why begin researching and developing something that could potentially be banned in the unpredictable future we're destined for. |
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True, but Glock as a company has little impetus to invest (tooling, design, etc. etc.) in such a thing......................................as a business, which is what they are, they're still doing outstanding, filling orders all over the world for their pistols, which continue to be in high demand. And of course they well know that this "weapon role" we're sort of discussing here is well-filled by many current designs made by other companies. I'm a Glock guy...............I'd love to see a Glock-made carbine. If it were anything like their pistols, it would be the shit! But it's not likely to happen anytime soon, if ever. They just don't have the need. ETA: I think we as happy, FREE Americans take for granted the fact that alot of other countries are very prohibitive in what civilians can have access too. The whole "Glock carbine" pipe dream we all talk about would be something mostly marketed to U.S. Civilians....................just not near as profitable as alot of their pistol endeavours, which are marketed and sold the world over to civilians and .mil/LEO also. For a company that put out curtain rods, I don't think they are doing that bad... Personally, I think that would be more profitable than going the 4th Generation route. LEO contracts are pretty good. Like I mentioned before, I know of a few departments that went with the Beretta. If the department already has a Glock issued, then it is a better route to go from their perspective. If it is a package they really want, then they might make the leap to handguns at the same time (one department I talked about switched over to the PX4 and CX4 at the same time; another had to do the pistols first, and the carbine will be coming in during the next year). Civilian wise, I could only see it being an issue in California. A simple blowback setup that locks back with Glock magazines isn't that hard of an accomplishment. Like was already alluded to, a Class III version shouldn't be too hard with Glock's 18. Glock isn't a bad company, and I think they would make a lot of money implementing it. With their pistol lineup, this is a very logical move... |
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Yeah... the Cx4 is what I was thinking too. I don't know how well that's done for Beretta or where else in the world it's sold, but it's a sweet rifle and I'm glad they gambled on making it... I only wish Glock would take that same chance because I think it would be gold. |