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1/18/2004 10:14:14 PM EDT
does anyone have this? i love my glock 22, just can't seem to get used to the trigger. i picked up my buddies sig226 and shot it wonderfully. i DO NOT want to part with my glock. can i fix this with a trigger connector? i was also looking into a stainless trigger bar and trigger. i know practice will help and has. i'm not horrible with it. can keep all shots on a b27 silloughette at 25 yards. still want to increase my effectiveness and performance. i read it is for competition only and not tactical scenarios. why? most da/sa's are around 3-4 #s on the second shot, right. if anyone has any insight to this please let me know . especially if you have one or tried one with the connector or stainless bar. let me know the before and after. thanks.
1/19/2004 5:48:27 AM EDT
[#1]
i put a 3 1/2 in my g17 and love it,nothing ese to add
1/19/2004 7:03:03 AM EDT
[#2]
The 3 1/2 will probably help, but it is not really a "target quality" letoff, either. My suggestion is to learn to shoot the Glock in a slightly different manner than the Sig. I get my best results with the Glock by putting a little more finger on the trigger and sort of "ooching" it off of the sear, similar to the DA pull of a revolver, rather than trying to treat it like other autopistols. Also pay particular attention the the trigger reset, which is the little "click" you hear when you very slowly release the trigger after DRY firing and working the EMPTY action. That is as far as you need to release the trigger for another shot to be fired.

Leave the Sig at home for a while and work with the Glock exclusively...it is often more difficult to shoot well if you are transitioning between guns while shooting, and the Glock...for me at least...needs a little getting used to.
1/19/2004 11:26:38 AM EDT
[#3]
I have and still do use a 3.5# connector in various Glocks.

When I first installed the 3.5# connector, I thought it was going to be the perfect trigger. The change, at least to me, wasn't overly apparent and I was initially disappointed.  The only way I can tell if I have the 3.5# connector is to dry fire one of my Glocks with the standard trigger and then dry-fire the 3.5# trigger where the difference then becomes somewhat apparent.

If you're not used to the Glock trigger system, I would practice getting acquainted to the standard as the 3.5# is not leaps and bounds different IMO.

I do use the 3.5# connector for my USPSA competition pistol...Only because I also installed a Wolff reduced power striker spring.  This combination, compared to the standard 5# pull is definitely a leap ahead.  The trigger breaks through clean and smooth with very little "stacking" before the trigger releases to fire.  

If I were to compare the 3.5# trigger with the standard striker spring against a Glock set-up with both the 3.5# connector and the Wolff RP striker spring, once again, there would not be a lot of difference. But comparing my competition set-up to the standard, there's the big difference.

I have not tried any other fire control parts for my Glocks.  I have yet to see the merit in trying a different trigger or other parts made of vaying types of materials.


By glock40cal: i read it is for competition only and not tactical scenarios. why? most da/sa's are around 3-4 #s on the second shot, right.


The following is my own personal take on using or not using after-market or modified weapons for self defense and is in no way to be construed as fact:


The 3.5# connector and RP springs offered as after market replacements have clear warning that such products are not meant to be used for "duty or carry" for several reasons.  First, the parts are not "Factory specs".  Glock manufactured their parts to work in their pistol.  The aftermarket parts are made by others to give the Glock owner something "different" than factory. (such as a better trigger pull, faster lock time, etc.)  Reduced striker springs are obviously not a good idea for carry or self defense because they may not reliably detonate every round due to a hard primer.  For defense and carry, Glock guarantees their pistol, as is from the factory, has been designed to ensure you can entrust your life to the weapon.  After market parts are made by others who, in order to cover their own ass, cannot guarantee the performance of the parts under all conditions. (Ammo selection is directly related to the reliability of your carry weapon...Choose it wisely) In this paragraph I'm trying to cover a weapon that is not up to spec to reliably defend you. In other words, would you trust your life to the maker of a $15 part vs. a factory guaranteed $500 weapon?

The other reason for not recommending after market, tricked out parts, for a defense weapon is the off chance you find yourself in the defendant's chair fighting asinine charges pressed by an over-zealous prosecutor who just doesn't like folks using firearms for self defense.  And his closing lines will be, "Ladies and gentlemen of the jury...A standard firearm was not deadly enough for the defendant.  No sir, he needed to tweak his deadly instrument into an even more heinous killing machine by reducing the amount of tension it takes for the trigger to allow the gun to fire.  He's a madman that sat in his basement thinking to himself, 'how can I ensure my weapon will kill more easily?' And then ladies and gentlemen, after he had built the "perfect instrument of death" he was all too anxious to use it to prove its effectiveness.  Which is why Mr. Scumbag is no longer with us today.  Sure, Mr. Scumbag may have been a threat to the defendant, but if the defendants weapon was not so easily deployed and so effective at doling lethal vengeance, Mr. Scumbag may very well be breathing today (and paying taxes)...." The above paragraph illustrates a worse case scenario in a world that doesn't want you to be able to use every tool and/or accessory available on the market to ensure you go home safely every night.



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