Posted: 1/31/2009 10:37:16 PM EDT
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Bought this G34 used.
When I inspected it at the store this area was covered with some sort of thick grease that took a lot of scrubbing to get off. When I got it off and look inside, it appeared that a miniature bear had crawled into the mag well and chewed on this area. I'm pretty sure that my only option is to send it back to Glock for a frame replacement at my cost... Best picture I could take. Oh, I had a failure to feed with factory ammo, (shot it before I noticed the frame damage), and the trigger safety does not work - that is the side of the trigger can be pulled without touching the safety and the weapon will fire. Magazine is FML, 3rd gen follower, but it is a ban era LE mag. According to the SN this weapon was made in 00. It has an aftermarket recoil spring and non-captured rod setup, marked Glockmeister, wow what a PITA to reinstall. I have a stock recoil spring/guide rod assy and new 17rd mag on order. I may cancel that if the weapon is junk. 
UPDATE Went back to the store this morning. Took me about 15 seconds for me to explain the situation, and 5 for the guy behind the counter to say "We'll give you a refund." They also removed the 10-8 sights I had installed free of charge (I bought it during my lunch break, installed sights after work, then went shooting - actually my boss installed them for me). General consensus among the employees and owner was "Why the F would someone do that?" I was expecting them to give me a hard time, but I'm glad they didn't. |
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I'm kind of at a loss as to why the frame is so chewed up in that area. Just strange............no cracks, outside, just chewed up like that inside? Couldn't be damage from a previous KB, I don't think.
I would say yes, the frame is toast. If there's not enough material anymore behind the trigger for the trigger safety to hit upon, when extended, that is kind of bad. Not sure how this would lead to malfunctions, unless that magwell area is so messed up it's "out of spec", in that the mag isn't bein' held quite where it should be during firing. First instinct would be to go to where/who it was bought from and adress the issue. If that's not possible, I'd say it will have to be sent to Glock. Frame replacement I hear is around 150 or so. Still worth it, if you're stuck with the gun, because after that's done, and Glock looks over everything, it will still be a kick-ass gun. |
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How could you not see that at the store?If you paid more than $300 you got screwed when you add in the cost of frame replacement.
If indeed the shop owner tried masking the damage with some sort of gunk,I would be paying that SOB a visit. Take your photos and shop owner to small claims,if he will not give you a refund! |
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How could you not see that at the store?If you paid more than $300 you got screwed when you add in the cost of frame replacement. If indeed the shop owner tried masking the damage with some sort of gunk,I would be paying that SOB a visit. Take your photos and shop owner to small claims,if he will not give you a refund! I looked right at that area and only saw grease or whatever it was. I even pointed it out to the salesman, he said "oh yeah that'll come off easily..." |
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"Bought this G34 used.
When I inspected it at the store this area was covered with some sort of thick grease that took a lot of scrubbing to get off. When I got it off and look inside, it appeared that a miniature bear had crawled into the mag well and chewed on this area." Bring this POS back to the store! 
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It appears as though that 34 has only one locking block pin. Is that right? Do the serial numbers match on the frame, slide & barrel? Otherwise it sorta looks like a kB happened in there.  Why is the frame area around the top of the trigger hogged-out?
I'd take that'n back for a refund PRONTO!! |
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It appears as though that 34 has only one locking block pin. Is that right? Do the serial numbers match on the frame, slide & barrel? Otherwise it sorta looks like a kB happened in there. All SNs match. Barrel and slide have no obvious damage. Some of the marks look like tool marks which has me thinking something other than KB. |
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someone did a dremel special to that gun big time....looks like they did the same to the inside of the gun. When you use a dremel on plastics they tend to melt more then they cut, which is kinda what it looks like to me. Either way, take it back and demand a refund.
Hell I wonder if it even fires...they might have brought it in to sell because it was broken and figured it was better to sell it and get the money then pay for a new frame from glock and have to explain their idiocy |
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Im with the rest of the gang, Take it back and try to get a refund. If they are a reputable gun store they will take care of you. If they are not, then you know not to ever do business with them again.
I feel your pain though, when you buy a new gun you kind of get excited and then finding this must be a big let down. |
| I can guess at what happened. It looks like the previous owner was experementing with a frame mod to eliminate the trigger safety. I have seen this on IPSC guns. First guys used to take out the tab on the trigger, but I saw one guy get called on it, so plan b was to grind the frame. It's the same concept as pinning a 1911 grip safety. I'm not condoning it, but I have seen it. If you sent the frame in for a grip reduction, they might be able to put enough back to maake it work. Either that or melt in a metal stop bar instead. There's a guy down in MO that has a G17 with an aluminum magwell melted into the bottom of his frame. |
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I'll beat on the shop in the morning. They have two 17Ls, new, but they want ~630 or so for them IIRC. They had a used 22 that I might buy as a platform to convert to another caliber. Failing that another store in town has a 21SF for $550. Take it back, DEMAND a refund, and don't even think about buying anything else from them. Then post the name of the store here so everyone else can avoid them. They took advantage of you and sold you a modified gun that lacked a safety and lied to you about it. You could have been seriously hurt. |
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I'll beat on the shop in the morning. They have two 17Ls, new, but they want ~630 or so for them IIRC. They had a used 22 that I might buy as a platform to convert to another caliber. Failing that another store in town has a 21SF for $550. Take it back, DEMAND a refund, and don't even think about buying anything else from them. Then post the name of the store here so everyone else can avoid them. They took advantage of you and sold you a modified gun that lacked a safety and lied to you about it. You could have been seriously hurt. |
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could it be from a harsh cleaning spray eating away at the frame, or a shitty ammo leaving corrosive residue behind. Whater it was they screwed you by hiding it with grease. Oh and the safety doesnt work, better return it if you can. No, I don't think it's from that. Damn 87GN, be sure to let us know what the store says tomorrow. |
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could it be from a harsh cleaning spray eating away at the frame, or a shitty ammo leaving corrosive residue behind. Whater it was they screwed you by hiding it with grease. Oh and the safety doesnt work, better return it if you can. What kind of shitty ammo corrodes plastic? |
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It appears as though that 34 has only one locking block pin. Is that right? Do the serial numbers match on the frame, slide & barrel? Otherwise it sorta looks like a kB happened in there. All SNs match. Barrel and slide have no obvious damage. Some of the marks look like tool marks which has me thinking something other than KB. Some moron bubba'd the living f**k out of it. When buying used guns trust no-one. The guys behind the counter are often dumber than a bag of hammers when it comes to firearms. Disassemble the weapon and give it a good going over. Do a function check on it. It's no different than when buying a used car...you've got to make sure you aren't buying someone else's problem. |
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It appears as though that 34 has only one locking block pin. Is that right? Do the serial numbers match on the frame, slide & barrel? Otherwise it sorta looks like a kB happened in there. All SNs match. Barrel and slide have no obvious damage. Some of the marks look like tool marks which has me thinking something other than KB. Some moron bubba'd the living f**k out of it. When buying used guns trust no-one. The guys behind the counter are often dumber than a bag of hammers when it comes to firearms. Disassemble the weapon and give it a good going over. Do a function check on it. It's no different than when buying a used car...you've got to make sure you aren't buying someone else's problem. It's unfortunate how often this is true. |
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Update bump.
Went back to the store this morning. Took me about 15 seconds for me to explain the situation, and 5 for the guy behind the counter to say "We'll give you a refund." They also removed the 10-8 sights I had installed free of charge (I bought it during my lunch break, installed sights after work, then went shooting - actually my boss installed them for me). General consensus among the employees and owner was "Why the F would someone do that?" I was expecting them to give me a hard time, but I'm glad they didn't. |
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Update bump. Went back to the store this morning. Took me about 15 seconds for me to explain the situation, and 5 for the guy behind the counter to say "We'll give you a refund." They also removed the 10-8 sights I had installed free of charge (I bought it during my lunch break, installed sights after work, then went shooting - actually my boss installed them for me). General consensus among the employees and owner was "Why the F would someone do that?" I was expecting them to give me a hard time, but I'm glad they didn't. Very well handled by all parties. Good outcome! |
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UPDATE Went back to the store this morning. Took me about 15 seconds for me to explain the situation, and 5 for the guy behind the counter to say "We'll give you a refund." They also removed the 10-8 sights I had installed free of charge (I bought it during my lunch break, installed sights after work, then went shooting - actually my boss installed them for me). General consensus among the employees and owner was "Why the F would someone do that?" I was expecting them to give me a hard time, but I'm glad they didn't. That was decent of them, glad it worked out. I would not hold any bad feelings against the dealer for selling it to you as they just dont check things that closely, they probably had no idea. The way they handled this is how i would rate them. |
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That was decent of them, glad it worked out. I would not hold any bad feelings against the dealer for selling it to you as they just dont check things that closely, they probably had no idea. The way they handled this is how i would rate them. Yes, I'll do business with them again in the future. I'm very happy with the way they handled it. |
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Given the potential safey issues of them selling a gun like that, that they obviously did not inspect when they received...they did the right thing.
I don't imagine it would look too good in court if someone got hurt by a firearm that had a safety disabled that wasn't disclosed to the buyer. |
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UPDATE Went back to the store this morning. Took me about 15 seconds for me to explain the situation, and 5 for the guy behind the counter to say "We'll give you a refund." They also removed the 10-8 sights I had installed free of charge (I bought it during my lunch break, installed sights after work, then went shooting - actually my boss installed them for me). General consensus among the employees and owner was "Why the F would someone do that?" I was expecting them to give me a hard time, but I'm glad they didn't. Glad it worked out for you. Can't for the life of me figure out what the idiot who did that was trying to do? |
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87GN, I just read your update! So very glad to hear that they did the right thing. I think that was the best possible outcome, other than them possibly paying to have the frame replaced. This is indeed good news!
So, what're ya gettin' to replace, another G34, or what? |
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87GN, I just read your update! So very glad to hear that they did the right thing. I think that was the best possible outcome, other than them possibly paying to have the frame replaced. This is indeed good news! So, what're ya gettin' to replace, another G34, or what? heheh... 
If I can find a LE/Mil G34 or G17 I will pick that up too. This was $500 OTD with 3 mags, and I can use my M&P45 holsters. |
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Yeah, when I talked to the local police store on the phone, they said they had a G21SF and a G21 as LE models.
I had them put the 21SF on hold for me. It had the ambi release and picatinny rail. Well, when I got down there they had apparently sold the 21SF. But the "21" was actually a 21SF without the rail or mag release, this is what I really wanted anyway. So I picked it up. 
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But the "21" was actually a 21SF without the rail or mag release, this is what I really wanted anyway. So I picked it up. That's the one I would want too. Great snag! 
Do you know what the product # is for that one? Might see if I can order one and if I do, I want to make sure I get the right one. Thanks |