Posted: 1/25/2009 3:57:23 PM EDT
| What does everyone thing about this part good or bad and do they snag for cc? |
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No snag. Depending on how you shoot, you may hold the slide stop down, or bump it, causing the slide to not lock back when the mag is empty. +1 I release a slide that is locked back by racking the slide after you insert a new, loaded mag. It's a gross motor where as thumbing the slide stop is a fine motor skill. If you buy an "extended" slide stop your giving into the concept of the part being a "slide release" ...and that's heresy my friend 
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I release a slide that is locked back by racking the slide after you insert a new, loaded mag. It's a gross motor where as thumbing the slide stop is a fine motor skill. If you buy an "extended" slide stop your giving into the concept of the part being a "slide release" ...and that's heresy my friend +2 |
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If you practice the "slide lock reload" Glock owners will FREAK!! lol. Even though it is faster than using your off hand.
Seriously, though. If you practice both ways of reloading (which you should) the extended slide release is very helpful. ESPECIALLY on the heavier slides such as my G30SF. The standard slide lock does not work anywhere near as well. Think about this for two seconds: if you do not have the use of your left hand, using the slide lock is the easiest and fastest way to reload. |
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I think they should be standard equipment on all Glocks. All of my Glocks have them installed (even CCW). Whether they are "needed" or not I guess depends on you, your hand and how you like to operate your gun but for me, I have found no downside to them and find them much easy to operate then the standard part.
The whole gross motor skills argument is a double edge sword IMO. Yes, under stress some people might find it harder to manipulate the slide stop release but there may be times were you won't have 2 hands free to "rack the slide" to release it and in those times, that ext. release will be a blessing, especially if that how you're use to releasing the slide in the first place. Before someone talks about hooking the rear sight to your pocket or belt and racking the slide that way one handed... if you can't operate the ext. slide release because your are under stress, I would love to see you rack the slide up against your belt (and not shoot yourself in the foot) in the same situation. |
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I have never had a snagging issue with my G27, with the extended slide stop. I did switch back to the factory slide stop, because of a change in my grip. If a right handed person shoots with a "thumbs high" grip, the extention can cause premature slide lock.
I am also trying to develope consistancy in my gun handling technique. It is easier for me to rack the slide, when wearing gloves. That being the case, I always rack the slide. |
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I release a slide that is locked back by racking the slide after you insert a new, loaded mag. It's a gross motor where as thumbing the slide stop is a fine motor skill. ] COMPLETELY FALSE!!! Seriously. They are ALL fine motor skills. Period. Gross motor skills: running, jumping, crawling Fine motor skills: picking up things with your thumb and fingers For more on this, read Todd Green's article from Pistol-training.com: http://pistol-training.com/archives/160 A fine motor skill is any movement that requires smaller or more precise muscles. Pointing, grabbing, even squeezing with your hands are all fine motor skills. Basically, anything that uses your fingers is a fine motor skill. So: * Hitting slide release lever = fine motor skill * Overhand racking slide = fine motor skill * Slingshotting slide = fine motor skill * Banging head against wall after hearing this debate the 1,000th time = gross motor skill |
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Love them on my play and home defense guns, don't use them on my CCW, however, I tune my levers so that a strong wack to seat the mag will drop the slide and then I don't have to use either. That way is by far the fastest and should it fail to drop the slide, your hand is already in position to use the Slide Stop Lever to drop the slide and get back in the game. Many people have argued that Glock didn't intend for the lever to be used to drop the slide because he named it a 'Slide Stop Lever'. That is just bull. He named the take down part the 'Slide Lock'. Other manufactures have named their corresponding parts different names. If, as many believe, Glock didn't intend the Slide Stop Lever to be used to drop the slide, why did he make an extended version for his 'Tactical' / Competition models like the G34 and 35? Does anyone really think that Glock designed an extended part so that we wouldn't use it? Nonsense! As philip110 posted, the gross vs fine motor skills chant has been going on for years and is, like much internet folklore, a totally false argument. The key is to practice whatever you do so that it becomes a natural action. That said, the simple fact is that the 'slingshot' method of charging the weapon is by far the slowest of the 3 methods, even with a ton of practice. It requires the shooter to move the weapon far off target, it involves a completely separate, second action by your off hand to cycle the slide than that used to insert the mag, and is as prone to failure in a high stress situation as any other method. Simple facts are: Fastest - insert mag and slide drops when mag is seated. Second - insert mag and drop slide with Slide Stop Lever. Last - insert mag and then charge weapon using slingshot method. Those are the facts that can be demonstrated by test notwithstanding all of the folklore to the contrary. |