Posted: 1/21/2009 9:19:32 AM EDT
So we all know that with training and a good holster, the odds of having an ND with a glock are about even with every other gun. But, I mean, guys, I'm reading on the internetz that glocks just go off for no reason!  
So I'm taking a poll, I need to know the truth... 
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Outside of police and armed security, nobody I know has ever had a ND with a Glock. But....just locally here in W. Mass, I know of six ND's with either Glocks or Sigmas in the hands of LE and in once case, armed security.
One was an instructor who was teaching a firearms safety class at a police academy and was saying how dangerous he felt the Glock was because you have to pull the trigger to disassemble it. He kept stressing the need to check the chamber before disassembly. They patched the hole in the wall before the next class. Another was an officer working the dispatch desk and was "cleaning" his Glock. They had to replace the keyboard. Then there was the training officer driving the cruiser with his rookie in the passenger seat. After a short persuit, they initiated a felony stop. The training officer drew his Glock, obviously with his finger in the trigger, and when he squeezed the door handle to open the door, he involuntarily squeezed with his right hand, shooting his rookie in the leg. Both the training officer and the Chief blamed the "dangerous" design of the Glock, without an external safety. The next one was an officer "cleaning" (see a pattern developing here?) his Sigma in the locker room. They replaced the floor tile. It had about a .40 caliber hole in it. How about the officer at home on his 2nd floor apartment cleaning his G23 after an annual qualification day. He obviously failed to clear the chamber, and, lucky for the baby sleeping in the nursery in the room below, the .40 round only knocked the plaster off the ceiling. Out of everyone here, this is the only person who not only lost his job, but also lost his LTC as an "unsuitable person". The fact that he not only didn't go downstairs to check on the family there, but when the father went up to his apartment to check on him, he wouldn't even open the door and told him to go back downstairs, everything's OK, because he's a cop. Last, but not least, a security officer was at the cleaning table at the office. Not only do they have the safe unloading procedure on a poster on the wall, but they also have an unloading station. This "officer" used neither, and shot the cleaning table. But, with the 11 Glocks I currently own, and the 6 or 7 I've owned in the past, I haven't had any ND's at all. Every one of these instances were completely preventable, but in each case, the design of the pistol was blamed. That's modern America for you....no personal responsibility for anything. |
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Outside of police and armed security, nobody I know has ever had a ND with a Glock. But....just locally here in W. Mass, I know of six ND's with either Glocks or Sigmas in the hands of LE and in once case, armed security. One was an instructor who was teaching a firearms safety class at a police academy and was saying how dangerous he felt the Glock was because you have to pull the trigger to disassemble it. He kept stressing the need to check the chamber before disassembly. They patched the hole in the wall before the next class. Another was an officer working the dispatch desk and was "cleaning" his Glock. They had to replace the keyboard. Then there was the training officer driving the cruiser with his rookie in the passenger seat. After a short persuit, they initiated a felony stop. The training officer drew his Glock, obviously with his finger in the trigger, and when he squeezed the door handle to open the door, he involuntarily squeezed with his right hand, shooting his rookie in the leg. Both the training officer and the Chief blamed the "dangerous" design of the Glock, without an external safety. The next one was an officer "cleaning" (see a pattern developing here?) his Sigma in the locker room. They replaced the floor tile. It had about a .40 caliber hole in it. How about the officer at home on his 2nd floor apartment cleaning his G23 after an annual qualification day. He obviously failed to clear the chamber, and, lucky for the baby sleeping in the nursery in the room below, the .40 round only knocked the plaster off the ceiling. Out of everyone here, this is the only person who not only lost his job, but also lost his LTC as an "unsuitable person". The fact that he not only didn't go downstairs to check on the family there, but when the father went up to his apartment to check on him, he wouldn't even open the door and told him to go back downstairs, everything's OK, because he's a cop. Last, but not least, a security officer was at the cleaning table at the office. Not only do they have the safe unloading procedure on a poster on the wall, but they also have an unloading station. This "officer" used neither, and shot the cleaning table. But, with the 11 Glocks I currently own, and the 6 or 7 I've owned in the past, I haven't had any ND's at all. Every one of these instances were completely preventable, but in each case, the design of the pistol was blamed. That's modern America for you....no personal responsibility for anything. Yowsers. That's all I can say. |
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The only time I have ever come close to anything along the lines of an ND or unsafe operation was at the range. It was not with a Glock but rather with my Ruger P89 (has a manual safety). An ejected casing bounced off of the booth wall and went down the back of my shirt onto my bare back. Needless to say, it got a reaction out of me especially since I wasn't expecting it. I involuntarily threw my arms up and my right (weak) hand grabbed my collar in the back to try to shake out the casing. My left hand went up in the air pointing the weapon at the ceiling but I took the finger off the trigger out of instinct when the muzzle direction left the lane. The only thing that I actually blame was my shirt of all things. I wore a polo style shirt with a collar on it that helped funnel the casing into my shirt. I have never worn a collared shirt to an indoor range since then.
Past this there was the time I was benching a .22 rifle and a shell casing bounced off the wall and went in behind my glasses and contacted my eyeball because I couldn't close my eye fast enough. It wasn't close to causing any accidents. It just sucked ass. |