Posted: 12/31/2008 1:43:41 PM EDT
| ok so ive heard people have put 15K rounds or whatever through their glock w/o cleaning it, but what about long term? i ask because my dad tends to shoot about 200 rounds every 3-6 months. has anyone done this with a glock? shoot it a bit and just put it away for several months w/o cleaning? what happens to it, if anything? |
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ok so ive heard people have put 15K rounds or whatever through their glock w/o cleaning it, but what about long term? i ask because my dad tends to shoot about 200 rounds every 3-6 months. has anyone done this with a glock? shoot it a bit and just put it away for several months w/o cleaning? what happens to it, if anything? Basically, it just stays dirty as the above poster said. The problem with that though is that if your father needed the pistol and it was filthy, it just might let him down. The other thing is that the longer it goes without cleaning, the more of a chore it will be cleaning, especially with the bore. They say every weapon should be cleaned after each use. While I hate cleaning them, I try and follow that rule. In the case of the Glock, I would at the very least give the bore a quick cleaning, wipe the outside of the barrel with clp, brush the extractor and breech face with a dry tooth brush, and put a drop of oil on the connector bar. This probably takes all but 10 minutes to do. |
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I went about two years without cleaning my G21 duty gun; tri annual qualifying and annual inservice, plus a few times at the range. 100% qual scores each time with no malfunctions. I don't do that anymore, but not cleaning it isn't the end of the world.
I enjoy cleaning if I have the time, and it also has the added benefit that you see your gun parts and will know if anything is broken. It's easier to spot those things on a clean gun than on a dirty gun. |
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My view on gun cleaning is this...
Clean your firearms after each use and it takes about 10 minutes to get it done plus the added bonus of routinely inspecting parts for wear... ...or... Clean your firearms once in a blue moon and it takes a hammer, a chisel, and an afternoon. |
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While Glocks will work even when neglected, I'm bothered by this LEO's post. I don't mean to slam erik996, but his apparent lack of concern with the care and maintenance of his equipment both he and people around him may one day depend upon to save their lives is disturbing.
I went about two years without cleaning my G21 duty gun; tri annual qualifying and annual inservice, plus a few times at the range. 100% qual scores each time with no malfunctions. I don't do that anymore, but not cleaning it isn't the end of the world. I enjoy cleaning if I have the time, and it also has the added benefit that you see your gun parts and will know if anything is broken. It's easier to spot those things on a clean gun than on a dirty gun. |
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I would at the very least give the bore a quick cleaning, wipe the outside of the barrel with clp, brush the extractor and breech face with a dry tooth brush, and put a drop of oil on the connector bar. This probably takes all but 10 minutes to do. Exactly what I do. In fact, not much more to do except q-tip the guts. Takes no more than 10 mins and offers you peace of mind when you have to use it the next time. Glocks are so simple to clean I dont' see how anyone cannot afford 10 mins of their time for this. |
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While Glocks will work even when neglected, I'm bothered by this LEO's post. I don't mean to slam erik996, but his apparent lack of concern with the care and maintenance of his equipment both he and people around him may one day depend upon to save their lives is disturbing.I went about two years without cleaning my G21 duty gun; tri annual qualifying and annual inservice, plus a few times at the range. 100% qual scores each time with no malfunctions. I don't do that anymore, but not cleaning it isn't the end of the world. I enjoy cleaning if I have the time, and it also has the added benefit that you see your gun parts and will know if anything is broken. It's easier to spot those things on a clean gun than on a dirty gun. and again not on erik996, but it's a sad fact that many LEOs are just not gun guys. |
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You really, really should clean your guns after every range session. And monthly if not shooting (you do not want to find out the hard way something has taken up residence in your barrel or that your lube dried out and you now have a mag fed single shot)
However, one of the things I do now before I rely on a gun is a minimum of 500 rounds with zero malfunctions before cleaning(however check the I do check the barrel for obstructions and look for wear as best as possible). Both my Glock 19's went through this and passed. The first one also made it through a week long SWAT school, 1000 rounds and the only cleaning was wiping the face/feed ramp for the weapon inspections. No hiccups. I did this the first time to test my then new never owned a glock out and then just started doing it with all my potential carry/duty guns. The one exception I make is on designs that are known for needing lube(AR and browning hi-power). I do not clean them but will lube them on the critical parts. Guns that passed this test for me? Glock 19(2), XD 45, BHP(lube applied), and a DPMS dissipator(yep lube). A Del-ton midlength is now going through it and is almost done(yes break free is my friend). Finally, I made an exception and did an abbreviated 200 round test on my keltec p32. Oh and all my wheel guns  Guns that have failed? Springfield armory LW(with lube).
And like another poster said definitely clean when using possibly corrosive ammo. JMHO, JME, YMMV |
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I don't believe in leaving any gun dirty on purpose but my Glocks are one of the few guns that I won't sweat not cleaning right away.
I did see an old guy at a steel match once having multiple FTE and FTF with his Glock. Another guy who was trying to help him out asked him when he cleaned it last? The old guy said "Never, the guy at the gun shop told me you don't ever have to clean a Glock"! I just  and walked away...
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I didn't clean my G19 for four days during a pistol class. 2000+ rounds went downrange in those four days. Plus I didn't clean it for quite a while afterwards.
No malfunctions. Like it's been said, Glocks are more forgiving in this area. Just look at BigBore's G21 test. Hasn't been cleaned OR lubed for several years. IMO, the pistol will get dirty to a certain point and everything else will be blown off when you shoot. |
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I actually disagree with cleaning a defense gun EVERY time. I prefer to clean it up really good after a range session, lube per Glock specs (4 drops of CLP is all you need!), and then fire one full magazine through. The magazine's worth of crap left behind is miniscule, but it DOES verify that the gun is ready to go for the real world! If you were really anal you could lock the slide open and bore snake it after the test mag.
Just like when I was in the Army, we would test fire every weapon before a mission when noise discipline allowed. The same goes for changing out parts, you should always run some rounds through the gun before depending on it again. I disregarded my own rule once when I put a new LCI extractor in a G27 which previously had the old style extractor. I carried it that way for a week before I got to the range. It wouldn't run worth a crap, with failure to fires every couple rounds and it even doubled once. I realized I forgot to change the spring loaded bearing to the new LCI style and learned a VALUABLE lesson that makes me shake my head to this day. |
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I have never understood why people don't clean their firearms when they have an opportunity. Unless you ram a bristle brush down the barrel excessively, a cleaning will not injure it.
I also don't understand why people do not simply go to the Glock website and read the recommendations about cleaning. I have seen uncleaned Glocks fail to operate after a time. In one class, a guy's Glock stopped operating. Everyone crowded around, including three Glock trained armorers. Wow! What was the problem? Oh, the guy purchased the gun used and dirty. He had shot it for some time dirty. It was filled with junk. When most people would want to be impressed about how long the Glock had gone without cleaning, I thought it was dumb to have a firearm that you would rely upon when you didn't bother cleaning it. Don't get me started about idiots who pack their firearms with mud, sand, and muck and then want to learn if they will blow up in their faces. 
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