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8/9/2008 2:26:41 AM EDT
Why won't Glock bring the .380 Cal to the US?.
8/9/2008 2:29:15 AM EDT
[#1]
Doesn't meet import regulations. IIRC it only is short like 2 points on the inspection criteria. They would make a raping if they did though.

Length: 1 point for each 1/4 inch over 6 inches.
Forged steel frame: 15 points
Forged HTS alloy frame: 20 points
Unloaded weight (w/mag): 1 point per ounce.
.22 short or .25 auto: 0 points
.22 LR and 7.65 mm to .380 auto: 3 points
9mm parabellum and over: 10 points
Locked breech mechanism: 5 points
Loaded chamber indicator: 5 points
Grip safety: 3 points
Magazine safety: 5 points
Firing pin block or lock: 10 points
External hammer: 2 points
Double action: 10 points
Drift adjustable target sight: 5 points
Click adjustable target sight: 10 points
Target grips: 5 points
Target trigger: 2 points.
8/9/2008 3:46:37 AM EDT
[#2]

Quoted:
Why won't Glock bring the .380 Cal to the US?.


The Glock model 25 and 28 are available only to Law Enforcement and Military in the US due to the import point system.

There have been people who have picked them up in South America and brought them home.
8/9/2008 7:31:29 AM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Why won't Glock bring the .380 Cal to the US?.


The Glock model 25 and 28 are available only to Law Enforcement and Military in the US due to the import point system.

There have been people who have picked them up in South America and brought them home.


How is it possible for an individual to import them if Glock can't?  

Are individuals exempt from playing the "points game?"
8/9/2008 7:55:40 AM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
Doesn't meet import regulations. IIRC it only is short like 2 points on the inspection criteria. They would make a raping if they did though.

Length: 1 point for each 1/4 inch over 6 inches.
Forged steel frame: 15 points
Forged HTS alloy frame: 20 points
Unloaded weight (w/mag): 1 point per ounce.
.22 short or .25 auto: 0 points
.22 LR and 7.65 mm to .380 auto: 3 points
9mm parabellum and over: 10 points
Locked breech mechanism: 5 points
Loaded chamber indicator: 5 points
Grip safety: 3 points
Magazine safety: 5 points
Firing pin block or lock: 10 points
External hammer: 2 points
Double action: 10 points
Drift adjustable target sight: 5 points
Click adjustable target sight: 10 points
Target grips: 5 points
Target trigger: 2 points.


So let's talk them into making special tungsten () mag floorplates to bring the weight up, getting them the points they need.  If those happen to get accidentally lost and replaced w/ standard ones later that'd be just too bad.
8/9/2008 7:58:15 AM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Why won't Glock bring the .380 Cal to the US?.


The Glock model 25 and 28 are available only to Law Enforcement and Military in the US due to the import point system.

There have been people who have picked them up in South America and brought them home.


How is it possible for an individual to import them if Glock can't?  

Are individuals exempt from playing the "points game?"


Glock can, for Mil. and LEO use only. Civi's are out of luck. Kind of like post ban class 3 stuff.
8/9/2008 8:10:09 AM EDT
[#6]
Thanks for the clarification ZW17.
8/9/2008 12:00:47 PM EDT
[#7]
Other than the "I got one"factor the .380 Glocks have no advantage.They are the same size as the 9s and ammo costs more.
8/9/2008 1:36:14 PM EDT
[#8]

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Other than the "I got one"factor the .380 Glocks have no advantage.They are the same size as the 9s and ammo costs more.


This is true. Same capacity and dimensions.
8/9/2008 3:57:53 PM EDT
[#9]
Yep.  I have no idea why the heck anyone would want one.

There the only guns Glock makes that are useless.  Those, and the GAPs!
8/9/2008 4:05:40 PM EDT
[#10]
I don't think I would rate them as "useless" there are several countries where individuals or LE are banned from using/owning anything in a military caliber.  9mm is, but 380 is not, so it allows for ownership of a good gun in a useable caliber.

Would I choose the 380 over the 9mm in the same size?  No.

Would I use the 380 if it's all I could get my hands on?  In a heartbeat.
8/9/2008 5:22:44 PM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
I don't think I would rate them as "useless" there are several countries where individuals or LE are banned from using/owning anything in a military caliber.  9mm is, but 380 is not, so it allows for ownership of a good gun in a useable caliber.

Would I choose the 380 over the 9mm in the same size?  No.

Would I use the 380 if it's all I could get my hands on?  In a heartbeat.


No, of course, I mean useless to US.  Yes, this is why Glocks in .380 exist.  Alot of countries don't allow ownership of "military" caliber firearms.  Yes.

Seems like we were just talkin' about this in another thread the other day.  OP, use the search, you'll see more comments and info on the subject.

Yeah, I would have and use a .380 if I wasn't allowed to own 9mm, .45ACP, etc.  But that's why I don't live in one of those countries!
8/10/2008 6:37:44 AM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Why won't Glock bring the .380 Cal to the US?.


The Glock model 25 and 28 are available only to Law Enforcement and Military in the US due to the import point system.

There have been people who have picked them up in South America and brought them home.


How is it possible for an individual to import them if Glock can't?  

Are individuals exempt from playing the "points game?"



I have heard of people getting them down in South America on vacation and just putting it in their checked baggage. That is not the legal way to do it but it would be hard to get caught because it is legal to have an unloaded firearm in your checked bags.

8/10/2008 7:26:25 AM EDT
[#13]
You would have needed to bring one in, to take one out. SA is very strict on exports. You will have all the alphabet agencies raining down on you.