Posted: 12/8/2007 1:32:37 PM EDT
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I have owned and shot many Glocks and this is the first time any of them has jammed. This is a new G23 and out of 150 rounds I had two malfunctions. the first was a failure to eject. The second was a failure to feed. I was shooting Winchester white box range ammo. Note that the malfunctions only happened with the 165 grain ammo that was in the 100 round pack, my 50 round box of 180 grain WWB was flawless. The weapon was cleaned and lubed prior. I am a little worried because I don't expect this from a Glock. Any ideas or causes of these malfuntions are appreciated. |
| The wwb 165 grain is all i have been shooting lately with prices the way they are and i have shot over 1000rds and not once had a problem. Wouldn't think it would be your grip?! I would field strip it, clean it, try again. If problems persist maybe a detailed strip? Or maybe you just got a bad box of brass. |
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2 malfunctions, each of them different types, out of the first 150 rounds? Even though it's a Glock, it sounds to me like it could very well just be breaking in a bit. I say throw another few hundred rounds down the pipe. If you're still having problems after that then start some detailed trouble shooting. Also make sure your magazines are marked and keep tabs on whether or not any malfunctions happen only with a certain mag. Good luck and enjoy your new toy. |
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Once in a while, I'll see a thread where someone posts a pic of WWB ammo that shouldn't have gotten through quality control. I want to say it's probably ammo related. Gotta agree, shoot it some more and make sure it's ok. A past girlfriend was able to limp-wrist my G17 multiple times. The slide would almost go back into battery. I'd have to reach over and tap it home. |
hahah -- malf threads in a Glock forum always come back to "limp wristing" since the guns are always perfect and will shoot even if you feed peanut butter in the chamber, not cartridges  . It just cracks me up that the hardcore Glock guys can't admit that their gun will malfunction from time to time.My guess is that it's probably ammo-related. I've shot a lot of WWB in a bunch of different calibers and have come across some very nasty ammo with dinged up and mangled cases. Also, whenever I've had a malf it was usually with WWB for what that's worth. It's cheap for a reason. Also, since the gun doesn't have many rounds down it a bit of wearing in certainly wouldn't hurt. And also - malfunctions are just a part of shooting. They happen no matter what gun you own. If you haven't had one it's just because you haven't had one YET. My G19 has 4070 rounds downrange according to the log with 5 malfs. My G17 has 1163 with 0. My G26 has 723 with 2. My G20 has 510 with 0. I've found that the smaller the gun (even with Glocks) the more prone it is to malfunctions. The G26 is a finicky little beast and requires me to load my handloads hot in order to even get it to cycle. The G19 is a bit more finicky than a full-size gun. The G17 has been thoroughly debugged and is a real nice pistol. And in case you're wondering - my Wilson has 7818 with 3.  |
Yep, I think all ammo makers let a bad one slip through from time to time. I had a buddy that had a bad experience with WWB shooting his Glock 19. He pulled the trigger - it went bang, but sounded different the recoil sensation was "strange" as he described it and he missed the target. When he went to clear the weapon to check it out, the round popped out with the bullet still seated. The primer was gone, flattened and broken apart in the action. Upon closer inspection, there was NO flash hole in the brass!!! I think he still has the round for a conversation piece. I had a round of .45 ACP Federal Tactical ammo that one of the rounds had the primer seated upside down. I was really shocked that that one slipped through the cracks, since it is marketed to LEO for duty carry. I was going to keep it, but the guy I got the ammo from wanted to give it to the Federal rep and seeif he could get some free ammo out of it. |
Not to burst your bubble, but I happen to own 6 Glocks, and have not yet to date have had any type of magazine or gun/ammunition induced type failures. I have a G19/G20/G23/G26/G29/G30 and have shot more ammo out of them then I care to discuss. Ranging from practice, to self defense loads, and hot Double tap ammo. I have had two malfunctions with a gunshop owned G20 which looked like it had been through a couple thousand rounds without being cleaned BTW. (one malfunction was a broken trigger pin, the other was a weak magazine spring. Both times the gun was returned to service in mere minutes.) I attribute my "luck" with my Glocks due to maintaining and understanding that springs and part's require replacement from time to time, and don't last forever. Every Glock I own get's new spring's every two years whether needed or not. Hell, $25.00 worth of spring's every two years is a cheap trade off to keep the guns I carry on my person, and in my home for self defense to run smoothly. |
 
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Congrats! You're not bursting my bubble at all. I'm very happy for you. |
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I dunno? Maybe it's just me? But I would'nt go in to the 1911 forum and start poking fun at $1200+ 1911's malfunctioning. Not without wearing a tinfoil hat that is!
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You guys are being sensitive. That wasn't what I was trying to say at all. What I'm trying to point out is that machines malfunction. I was trying to show that yes, even my beloved 1911 malfs. It's not perfect. I wasn't saying that it's better. I LOVE Glocks and 1911s. I think both are pinnacles in design. The 1911 being one of the best designs when it comes to hand-fitting. It's very simple and elegant. The Glock being the best example of modern manufacturing techniques. It's also simple and elegant. I'm not a 1911-guy only. I love good pistols. I own more Glocks than 1911s. Both malf at times. Everything malfs at times. And there's no need for the OP to worry just yet. It's probably bad ammo. |
+1 on that. Glocks CAN be limpwristed in my experience. My G19 has only had 1 malfunction in 1000's of rounds with me behind the trigger (a stovepipe, WWB possibly slightly low charge). But my father who has no experience with guns was able to cause multiple malfunctions with the same weapon. Was exactly as described above, slide would fail to go into battery, barely. We both shot a G22 with no issues though. Go figure. |