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11/4/2007 8:05:13 AM EDT
I was at the range yesterday shooting my 19.  First time ever i pulled the trigger and just heard a click.  Looked at the bullet and it had a regular looking firing pin mark.  It was WWB from walley world.  Did my glock have a failure or was this just the ammo?
11/4/2007 8:07:23 AM EDT
[#1]
11/4/2007 8:08:09 AM EDT
[#2]
I had a problem like that with some .380 ammo in my Kel-Tec P3AT.   So I rechambered it and after 5 strikes it went off.


I'll be damned if I waste ammo.
11/4/2007 8:09:16 AM EDT
[#3]
More than likely, if the indent on the primer looked normal, it was an ammo failure.

Remember that WWB is the cheapest practice ammo for a reason.

However, a gunked up firing pin channel can also cause the same type of failure. If oil gets down in the channel during cleaning and lubing it can collect gunk and will need to be cleaned out, I generally clean mine out every 5000 rounds whether it needs it or not.
11/4/2007 8:21:00 AM EDT
[#4]
Did all the other rounds fire and cycle properly or did you call it a day after that first FTF ?
11/4/2007 10:51:39 AM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
Did all the other rounds fire and cycle properly or did you call it a day after that first FTF ?


FTF = Failure To Feed

The OP experienced a light primer strike. More than likely, since it appears it only happened with one round, it's an ammo issue. If he had experienced multiple light primer strikes then it would probably be a gunked up firing pin channel.
11/4/2007 11:09:26 AM EDT
[#6]
One thing about the primer strike, was it off center? If so, it could be that the gun was slightly out of battery. I used to have that happen with my G19. In that case, it was user error.

If it was centered, my guess is an ammo problem.
11/5/2007 9:47:53 AM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
I was at the range yesterday shooting my 19.  First time ever i pulled the trigger and just heard a click.  Looked at the bullet and it had a regular looking firing pin mark.  It was WWB from walley world.  Did my glock have a failure or was this just the ammo?


My buddy had the exact thing happen the other night with WWB. The primer looked like a regular firing pin had hit it. He put it back in the mag and it fired fine. Bad ammo.....
11/5/2007 11:19:56 AM EDT
[#8]
Jesus Christ, take it easy.  I was just curious.  No I didn't call it a day.  I put another 150 or so rounds through it after.  The primer strike was centered.
11/5/2007 11:22:08 AM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:

FTF = Failure To Feed

The OP experienced a light primer strike. More than likely, since it appears it only happened with one round, it's an ammo issue. If he had experienced multiple light primer strikes then it would probably be a gunked up firing pin channel.


Thanks for the definition.  I'm still learning all the lingo.  I'm going to chalk it up as bad ammo.  I have been looking for an excuse for a detail strip though......
11/5/2007 1:30:54 PM EDT
[#10]
you should have tap-racked and moved on to the next good round...
11/5/2007 1:45:21 PM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:


Remember that WWB is the cheapest practice ammo for a reason.



So Olin makes cheap ammo? No they don't
11/5/2007 5:50:20 PM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
you should have tap-racked and moved on to the next good round...


Great advise..

I would guess that the other gentleman meant Failure to Fire by FTF instead of Failure to Feed...by FTF

Just a twist on lingo.....some initials mean different things to different people, and some initials mean the same thing for multiple occurances.

No harm no foul....everyone is always learning

Keep practicing...

I will go with bad primer...it happens to the best manufacturers.
11/5/2007 8:17:07 PM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
you should have tap-racked and moved on to the next good round...


I know.  To be honest with you, it wasn't the first thing that went through my head.  It was "holy shit, finally a click instead of a bang".  I need to start loading a random dud in my mags so it doesn't surprise me, and I clear it without thinking.

When I shoot my 1911 it is second nature.
11/5/2007 8:22:35 PM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
I had a problem like that with some .380 ammo in my Kel-Tec P3AT.   So I rechambered it and after 5 strikes it went off.


I'll be damned if I waste ammo.


You are a better man than I.  If it doesn't go bang the first go round, it ends up on the ground to be recycled with the rest of the brass/steel when I clean my area.  When they start putting serial numbers on the bullet cases, I may have to rethink my strategy
11/7/2007 10:31:46 PM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:
I was at the range yesterday shooting my 19.  First time ever i pulled the trigger and just heard a click.  Looked at the bullet and it had a regular looking firing pin mark.  It was WWB from walley world.  Did my glock have a failure or was this just the ammo?


I had this happen with remington fmj from wally world. I rechambered the round and pulled the trigger. It fired on the second try.
I think it's just bad ammo. I would not worry about the weapon's functionality.
11/7/2007 10:43:10 PM EDT
[#16]
I had a similar thing happen with the Glock 37(45 GAP) I used to have.  First time at the range with the gun, straight out of the box.  Loaded mag with Remington green and white box ammo.  Put one in chamber and "click", pulled slide back looked ar round, had indent in primer.  Let it load next round and, "click".  Same result.  Try next round and same thing.  So I took the mag, put a CorBon HP round in it, loaded that round into chamber, pulled trigger, and bang.  It continued to fire the rest of the mag of Rem. ammo just fine.  It ran great the rest of the day, shooting about 200 rounds of Remington.  I didn't really trust it afterwards though and sold it a few months later.
11/8/2007 10:43:47 AM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:
I had a similar thing happen with the Glock 37(45 GAP) I used to have.  First time at the range with the gun, straight out of the box.  Loaded mag with Remington green and white box ammo.  Put one in chamber and "click", pulled slide back looked ar round, had indent in primer.  Let it load next round and, "click".  Same result.  Try next round and same thing.  So I took the mag, put a CorBon HP round in it, loaded that round into chamber, pulled trigger, and bang.  It continued to fire the rest of the mag of Rem. ammo just fine.  It ran great the rest of the day, shooting about 200 rounds of Remington.  I didn't really trust it afterwards though and sold it a few months later.


If the primer was indented but did not ignite, it is a problem with the ammo, not the firearm, IMO.