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7/21/2007 3:42:09 PM EDT
I dont feel safe carying a gun without a manual safety. I know 20 people are gonna get on here and tell me thats heresy, its perfectly safe, your finger is the best safety, blah blah blah. I know, I get it. still, people accidentally pull the trigger all the time. I dont want to be one of those people.

so, I hear that a company named cominolli makes a manual safety for the glock. anyone have any experience with this?

does the lever rotate like a m9 or 1911, or does it move up and down vertically? is it ergonomic?

does it cause reliability problems?

thanks for the information.

7/21/2007 4:25:47 PM EDT
[#1]
Since no one else will tell you, take your Glock back to the store and pick up something with an external safety, that is the only way to be sure that you won't shoot yourself in the leg. I however prefer for my handgun to be dangerous. I also carry one in the pipe, call me crazy. Seriously don't do that. A Glock is as safe as anything else. Keep your damn finger off the damn trigger and you will be AOK. Good luck.
7/21/2007 5:08:40 PM EDT
[#2]
True Glockers have "SAFETY" tattooed in their heads.

I ALWAYS check the chamber when handling any firearm...including when I'm just window shopping.

Here, this is what you're looking for:


www.tarnhelm.com/GlockSafety.html

Keep your finger off the trigger until you're ready to fire AND always assume every firearm is loaded.  Kisses!

7/21/2007 5:52:14 PM EDT
[#3]
Try a Siderlock, you can get it at Lone Wolf.  It doesn't require any permanent changes to your pistol, and gives you the manual safety you want.  I had one on my old G17 and I loved it!  After some practice and training with it, it didn't slow down my time from draw to fire at all!
7/21/2007 6:26:00 PM EDT
[#4]
Get a safety, if that makes you feel better.  You don't need our permission to get one, and what's the point of your confession your fears?  
7/21/2007 10:39:47 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
I dont feel safe carying a gun without a manual safety. I know 20 people are gonna get on here and tell me thats heresy, its perfectly safe, your finger is the best safety, blah blah blah. I know, I get it. still, STUPID people accidentally pull the trigger all the time. I dont want to be one of those people.

so, I hear that a company named cominolli makes a manual safety for the glock. anyone have any experience with this?

does the lever rotate like a m9 or 1911, or does it move up and down vertically? is it ergonomic?

does it cause reliability problems?

thanks for the information.

Fixed it for ya!
7/21/2007 10:50:31 PM EDT
[#6]
I can't for the life of me figure out "why" people "feel" safer with a manual safety? I mean, If your afraid your going to forget and squeeze the trigger, What would make you remember to put the safety off or on? The Glock "is" as safe as any pistol on the market today. The only two things I would ever want to remember to do in a defensive situation would be to remember front sight, trigger press. The safety should be built in to your head and not the gun. To each, his own I guess.
7/22/2007 12:38:15 AM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
I can't for the life of me figure out "why" people "feel" safer with a manual safety? I mean, If your afraid your going to forget and squeeze the trigger, What would make you remember to put the safety off or on? The Glock "is" as safe as any pistol on the market today. The only two things I would ever want to remember to do in a defensive situation would be to remember front sight, trigger press. The safety should be built in to your head and not the gun. To each, his own I guess.


I agree, it is one more thing you might forget in a stressful situation.  I saw a video on Court Tv where a jewellery store was being robbed and the owner took out his 1911.  He forgot to take the manual safety off and was shot several times by the robber.  Fortunately he lived.
7/22/2007 12:53:25 AM EDT
[#8]
Glock offers there pistols with a external safety in Europe.  It is brand new.  They don't call it a safety but a trigger block.  It is located just above the magezine catch.  It is ambi and you can push it to the left or the right to get it on safe.  You just have to push it back in and you can fire.
7/23/2007 7:33:13 AM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
I dont feel safe carying a gun without a manual safety. I know 20 people are gonna get on here and tell me thats heresy, its perfectly safe, your finger is the best safety, blah blah blah. I know, I get it. still, people accidentally pull the trigger all the time. I dont want to be one of those people.


So you're going to rely on a mechanical device to keep you from being stupid?

Well, my experience is that no mechanical device can outdo stupidity.

Beyond that, who is to say that you won't flip off the mechanical safety and then still "accidentally" pull the trigger?

By the way, it isn't an "accidental" discharge in that case, but rather a "negligent" discharge.  Accidents are a result of mechanical failure.  Negligent discharges are a result of pulling the trigger at the wrong time.

I carry a Glock specifically because it has no mechanical safety to deactivate before it can be fired.  In a life-threatening situation I don't want to have to do anything other than pull the trigger to make the weapon fire.  Forgetting to flip that lever could get you killed.

7/23/2007 7:56:49 AM EDT
[#10]
wow you guys really like the glock kool aid.

I hear what you are saying, a safety can greatly decrease your speed and potentially be a huge problem if forgotten in a high stress situation.

but if you dont want the safety on, dont put it on. leave it in the off position. having an external safety gives you that option. not having one is less options.

I didnt get on here to debate the need for one. all I wanted to know was is the glock thumb safety a good product. does it work well? thats all I need to know.

and that siderlock looks perfect for me, deserttram, have you had any problems with it getting jammed up, or not working right?
7/23/2007 8:50:18 AM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
wow you guys really like the glock kool aid.

I hear what you are saying, a safety can greatly decrease your speed and potentially be a huge problem if forgotten in a high stress situation.

but if you dont want the safety on, dont put it on. leave it in the off position. having an external safety gives you that option. not having one is less options.

I didnt get on here to debate the need for one. all I wanted to know was is the glock thumb safety a good product. does it work well? thats all I need to know.

and that siderlock looks perfect for me, deserttram, have you had any problems with it getting jammed up, or not working right?


"My Kool-aid was'nt pouring out"!
I think some schmuck turned the lid "safety" and she was a no go!
7/23/2007 8:52:32 AM EDT
[#12]
your finger is not the only thing that can pull the trigger.

there is nothing wrong with wanting a manual saftey (or a saftey not on the trigger) such as a grip saftey
7/23/2007 9:35:54 AM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
your finger is not the only thing that can pull the trigger.

there is nothing wrong with wanting a manual saftey (or a saftey not on the trigger) such as a grip saftey


Your absolutely right!
There are those who prefer a safety, and those who don't. I consider myself the latter of the two. that's why I don't post much in the 1911 forum But, for the likes of me, how is my gun's trigger gonna pull itself inside a kydex IWB holster? maybe if a boeing 747 falls out of the sky on top of me, or hit by an 18 wheeler! but, I think my gun shooting me would be the least of my problems after the two descriptions I just gave. Life guarantees "no safety".
7/23/2007 12:40:59 PM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
wow you guys really like the glock kool aid.

I hear what you are saying, a safety can greatly decrease your speed and potentially be a huge problem if forgotten in a high stress situation.

but if you dont want the safety on, dont put it on. leave it in the off position. having an external safety gives you that option. not having one is less options.

I didnt get on here to debate the need for one. all I wanted to know was is the glock thumb safety a good product. does it work well? thats all I need to know.

and that siderlock looks perfect for me, deserttram, have you had any problems with it getting jammed up, or not working right?


No, I just don't understand folks who buy a product and then prompty want to reengineer it to add "features" that the original designer left off for a reason.  Particularly when the reason given for adding these "features" is to avoid negligence and stupidity.

Then they wonder if some aftermarket hack job will be as reliable as the original factory configuration.  The original design was tested, and validated, in countless military trials.  None of these aftermarket add-ons are ever tested that thoroughly.

Yes, my Glock will go "bang" if I, or anything else, pulls the trigger, which is exactly how I want it.  I prevent negligent discharges by not pulling the trigger with my finger and keeping other shit out of the trigger guard so it doesn't pull the trigger either.  Relying on a mechanical safety to prevent firing is, in a nutshell, stupid and most anything I've ever read on safe gunhandling states that exact fact.