Posted: 5/9/2007 5:24:53 PM EDT
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I have owned several Glocks in 40 as the 40 is my favorite cal. I sold them all when I found out about their reputation for blowing up and the whole unsupported chamber deal. I recently bought a Glock 19 as I have a new found love of the 9mm and I still like the simplisity of the Glock. My question is are the 9mm Glocks as prone to KaBooms as the 40's are? I would think not as the 19 was developed for the 9mm and the 23 was a 19 platform modified for the 40 hense the problems. By the way I got my 19 for $350 NIB!!!!! 
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| The kabooms with the .40 caliber Glocks have certainly happened but not very many with factory ammo. I have personally seen thousands upon thousands of rounds of .40 run thru glocks and not the first kaboom. Even so the 9mm is even less prone to such behavior. Enjoy your G19 you have a great gun at a great deal. |
I don't think I have heard of any KBs in the 9mm Glocks. I don't worry much about the 40s either, I have seen 2 KBs with G-22s 1 was a reload incident I know the hero handloader well and his pressures would have probably blown up a Freedom Arms Revolver the second don't know the guy and don't know what happened. I often carry a G-22 and if it KBs there are plenty of them around and they are fairly inexpensive so I'll just get another 1. 
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I sold several guns for a friend and in return he sold me his 19 that he never fired for $350. Kind of ironic, he went from 9 to 40 and I went from 40 to 9. I still have several 40's in Sig and S&W and the 40 is still my favorite but the 9mm is growing on me again! I pray this Glock 19 runs 100%. I usually get rid a gun that jam as they can't be trusted for ccw. 1 of my first 3 Glocks jamed a bit, the other 2 were great. I'm betting this 19 will be fine. |
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The reason you hear of so many .40 GLOCK KBs is: 1. A large majority of LEO carry them. Myself included, there were only 2 people in my academy class that didnt. 1 carried a .40 Sig, and the other a .45 Sig. 2. A large number of CCWers carry them. 3. A large number of people compete various competitions with them. 4. GLOCK used to have a more unsupported chamber in them, but has since remedied it. 5. Alot of LE agencies, and competitiors use reloaded or cheap reloaded ammo. Sheer popularity and usage is why you hear it so much, other guns KB as well. Take my words with a grain of salt, but I trust mine 100%. |
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My place of business....200 Glock 40s that are over 10 years old with.......ZERO, (0), NONE, ZILTCH, NADA, NOT ANY Kabooms!!! We have seen some problems with them, but most problems are avoided by outstanding (done by me) PM done on them. You don't have to worry, that much, about broken springs, extractor, ejectors, takedown lever springs if you replace them every couple years. Most of our magazines are 10 years old and I can only think of 3 that have broken. Even if the extractor gets chipped it ussually keeps working at least part of the time, the same goes for the ejector. We had a guy shooting a bunch of Wolf ammo out of his G23. I mean a piss load...4-5k. He came into practice and I noticed he was having to do Immediate Action..tap rack about every 4rth to 5th round. At first I thought he wasn't supporting the pistol (limp wrist), but upon inspection of his weapon I noticed that his ejector was broken. When I took his weapon apart it had: 1. Broken extracter 2. Broken top pin....it was in two pieces 3. Bent severely bottom pin 4. Locking block came out in three pieces. It was shattered. My guy with all of the above was nearly keeping up with the folks that had perfectly functioning weapons. I fixed the extractor and piece together the rest of the broken and bent parts to see if the weapon would continue to fuction. I fired loaded 400 rounds in mags and ran them through the beat and broken weapon without a hiccup. I then replaced all of the broken parts....sent them to Glock with a letter stating that I was quite impressed with the beating that the little gun took and still functioned. I love my Glocks...........and don't be afraid of the 40 cal beast. Stay Vertical, G |
Dang. I mean, just, dang! |
What caused his Glock to have that much damage done to it? Simply shooting 5k rounds of Wolf should not harm the gun in any way? Thanks to you and all who replyed!
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"Damage" is for the most part an incorrect term. As with anything the Glock lacked proper maintance. Most likely the "Locking Block Pin" broke stressing the the "Trigger Pin" and the "Locking Block" to the point they broke. I'm sure it had far more then 5K rds before it was looked at. As far as the kb thing I guess all my 40 cals are defective.  The kb crap in Glocks has been stirred as much as Jesse Jackson/Al Sharpton screaming racism every time someone is arrested. ANY firearm can have a case failure. A lot of the kb issues were from a bunch of bad factory ammo along with reloads that cropped up in the early 90s and remains posted by some web sites. If you look at the site there are no dates on a lot of his pages. Some of the pages have been up for 12-14 years. So the site is all new to someone just getting into firearms(or getting old enough to purchase one). If you would like to see a 9mm case failure, I have pics somewhere of a gun with about 100rds before it kb with factory ammo. Kbs are often no fault of the firearm but mostly an ammo quality control issue. Internet information is so fast and so easily spread that info from 10yrs ago is often posted as current news, especially on forums. |
Very true! |
I read on here recently that Glock recently changed the design of their 40's and their chambers are now fully supported.....this true? |
no, its not possible to have a fully supported chamber in a modified browning lock design heres a pic from Glock talk; a kkm BBl is on the left and the glock is on the right  as you can see you can get a tighter chamber and less of a "feed ramp" with the kkm, and thats the chamber support that we're discussing. Glock does that for more of a reliable feeding in adverse conditions. |
| I have a .40 cal glock that is currently near 112k rounds. I've even had a case rupture, and still no kaboom. I'd bet money that there are less kabooms in glocks than other types of guns per gun on the market. There are about 3.9 million glocks in circulation in the U.S. No other brand can touch that. So you just hear about them more. |
Have you had to replace any parts in it, during the 122K rounds? |
Spring/guiderod, I've noticed my accuracy falling off with it lately, so I'm pretty damn sure it's time for a new barrel. There will be threads involved  Infact, I'm probably gonna send it down to Smyrna for a full workover soon. ASFAIC Glocks are the best handguns on the planet, but nothing is truely perfect, it's gotta be due up for some breakage soon. |
Others may bristle at that, but I'd have to agree. (But mine is not an unbiased opinion -- 10 of my 12 Glocks are 9mms [the other 2 being .45s].  )
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That is all, the spring.recoil assy and wearing out the barrel, then it is indeed a robust handgun. I have a 30 and a 23, and I have yet to reach that level of rounds.  As for the threaded barrel, I'm going to do that as well to my 30.
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I got the count that high by shooting only it and occaisonally my glock 27 for 2 years straight, and competiting in IDPA and USPSA and practicing constantly for them. I had a lot of disposable income so it wasn't that hard. |