Posted: 3/31/2007 9:47:18 AM EDT
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Im not a Glock owner But do like the Glocks I seen on mail call a model 18 that can be switch to FA Man if I was in the military Thats what I would want to carry |
| the "Glock 18" is full auto not a conversion. its basically a full auto glock 17 you can buy conversions for the 17 . its not insanley hard to control but its not to easy. my friend has a 17 conversion its like post 86 leo conversion somthing like that ive shot it once and i would not want that thing as a sidearm id rather have a 1911 or just a semi glock if i was in the service. |
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It's not full auto all the time, it is select fire. I have actually fired a G18C a few times before, they are sweeeet. As for conversions.... watch your step with the BATFE... If you say his is legit, ok, not saying it aint, but seeing that GLOCKS were first imported to the USA in 1986, makes the odds low. |
| oops i forgot selective fire. yeah well hes a police officer and he says its legit. so i believe it and i dont know what year it is or what but post 86 is what i thought he said. i can be wrong though all i know is he had a shitload of papers to go through for it and before he was a officer of the law he was a class 3 firearms dealer he has many full auto weapons that are ALL legit. |
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I know they are not uncommon, not trying to open a can of worms here, but.. If the gun is converted to select fire by a class 3 FFL, the gun belongs to the business, and not the business owner, if the business folds, he has to get rid of the conversion. Still, not saying your buddy isn't legit, but just isn't likely, at least not personally owned. I know you said he used to be a FFL.. its funny though, some people for some reason think that just because you are a police officer, you magically get to OWN full autos. NOT true. Yes, we can play with them, take them home, carry them around, whatever your dept. allows, but in the end... it doesn't belong to the officer, and if we leave, it stays. Same with a letterhead, if we buy one on a letterhead, it is for the dept. not us. I am a police officer btw. I wish it did give us some magical exemption though! |
It depends, you CAN own full auto's by federal law. Your state can ban them. The only thing is, the weapon must be made pre- 1986, registered as a civilian machine gun, and you have to pay a 200 dollar tax. There is alot more to it, but that is a quick breakdown. (But, because there are only a certian number of legal civilian machinguns out there ( due to not being able to purchase NEW ones) the prices are INSANE. Here at our police department, we have 1970's era (quick guess) Colt M16A1s. In all reallity, they prolly arent worth $500. But if the same gun was a civilian gun, it would fetch $10,000-$20,000. |
If I am reading this correctly, you say you are in possession of a select fire firearm? Is it registered and legally transferred? If not, you may want to take down your posts.. If I am wrong, ignore my post! 
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well geeezee now you scarred me...haha it is not registerd in my name it is registered in my fathers name "legally" and i keep it in his vault i have already ran in to trouble shooting it at out on my friends property but they said it was fine because my father has had it for more than 20 years and it was passed from his father and legally registered they just ran the serial numbers and confiscated it to make sure they all matched up. it is technically my fathers but mine you know? i hate CA i get bugged everywhere for that carbine "like ranges" and then they find out it is legitimate and it shuts em up. but one of the main reasons ive only fired a few clips through it. mainly because its a collectors piece and also i get bugged because CA is WACK my grandpa served for our country and its almost impossible to hold on to a piece of history
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| it is 100 % legal transferred to my father from my grandfather its a preban rifle has matching serial numbers and was transferred at a ffl It has been in my fathers possession. if it is not legal the FFL would not have done it and my father would have not had to go through a shit load of paper work to own it and why its not transferred into my name? because my dad had to go through so much to get it id rather not. How come so many people post their ar's and m16's and ak's and such on the forums from CA and they dont get attacked? maybe the guns a m1 ok not sure ive never fired it full nor do i know of a selector switch i know it has a skeleton stock and my grandfather called it a m2 and it is made by inland or winchester. |
LUCKY DOG  it does have a selector |
Got pics? |
If it is registered to your father and you're in possession of it without him present, you're illegally in possession of a NFA weapon, which is a felony. On a personally-registered NFA weapon only the registered owner can have possession of it. If it is in a safe that you and he both have access to, then you have possession of the item unless it also has a cable lock through the action (or is in a locked case, etc.) and only he has the key. Transfering it may be a big hassle, but the alternative is a felony conviction and losing your rights forever. You're not being "attacked" at all. Rather, people are trying to tell you that you may have just confessed to committing a felony on an internet website monitored by the BATFE. No one wants to see anyone go to jail or see a transferable machine gun end up getting confiscated and destroyed. Note that all of the above applies to a true, selective-fire M2 carbine. If it is semi-auto only then it is not an NFA weapon and all of the above is moot, at least from the Federal level. I have no idea on California law as I wouldn't live there for any amount of money. |
I thought you never fired it? Not trying to razz you, just trying to figure out the story here.. Not yet, but prolly not far from calling 
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i said i never fired it full and that i only had experience with a mp5 in full and i have a m2 that my grandfather gave me. and maybe its a m1 ive never fired the thing in full i have put a few clips through it "not in full" and i am not aware of the selector switch or where it is on it i have never seen it i dont know much about carbines all i know is i have three and my grandfather called the one he passed on a m2.. i just thought a m2 had a skeleton stock and a bayonet lug anyways call BS its a rifle my grandfather gave me. i dont really give a shit about your little character with a flag. im just not trying to get bugged if its a m2. people like you bitch people out for having these weapons when everyone knows here theres many people on this site from CA with ar's and ak's weapons that are much more deadly and have far better penetration and accuracy and better mechanics and people from CA go out of state to build these guns knowing their illegal and post pics of them and they dont get bugged. this gun was past down in the family so worry about the real criminals not a grandfathered gun. |
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I said earlier i am not in possesion of it it is in my fathers possesion in his safe at his house and i have no access too it and i have shot it with my father i never took it without him going and i have never seen a selector switch on the thing my grandfather just called it that. im sorry for accusing of attacking but it upset me that someone called bs on me when it was passed from my grandfather who fought for our coutry in ww2. i called my father and he said it is in fact a USGI m1 30 cal made by inland. with a after market stock on it that my grandfather put on it and it does have the original wood stock with the sling hole there is no selector switch present. the papers say m1 not m2 honest mistake. he said it was just a bitch for paper work because they had to run the serial numbers and get a letter of concent from my granfather and they had to confiscate the magz to know if they were original. |
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For Christ's sake dude, lighten up. You said M2. An M2 is a full-auto version of the M1 Carbine. More than one of those got brought home by "grandpa" after the war, was never registered, and is now an illegal machine gun. On top of that, even if it was properly registered your post screams of ignorance about NFA laws, which can also land you in Federal prison if you take dad's NFA weapon to the range without him. People are trying to keep your ass out of prison, keep that firearm in the family, and you're getting your panties in a bunch over it. How about a simple, "Thank you for the concern, but I was mistaken and it is a semi-auto M1 Carbine" and be done with it? Oh yeah, the pronoun "I" is capitalized, all the time, as is the first word of a new sentence. Try it some time. |
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I did say it was a honest mistake it was a m1 carbine and i appologized for accusing people for attactking me i did not take it the way their information was intended and for that i am sorry. and i said i have never take it to the range with out my father as far as im concerned it is done because 1 i apologized...2 it is a m1 ..and 3 it was a honest mistake.. im sorry to you all thank you for the concern. there and mtk so what i dont capitalize a I it is a forum its a bad habbit just like AIM im not trying to impress anyone with typing im trying to talk about firearms and im not trying to get critiqued on my typing skills. |
Last time out, did my version of the USPSA/IPSC El Presidente drill with a factory Glock 18 and three 33-rd mags plus 1 in the chamber (100 rounds total). Mag dump on target, reload, mag dump, reload, mag dump. Easily controllable, can easily keep all rounds on target: El Presidente with G18 |
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Yup, exactly as I remember it, except it was almost dark outside. People who haven't shot them, usually are the ones to claim that you will be shooting squirrels and birds by the end of a mag... I chalk it up to jealousy. These things are completely controllable. |
| Glock does not make a select-fire pistol in .40S&W caliber. There are aftermarket conversion devices which can be used on most of the Glock pistols other than the standard Glock 17. One AR15.com member has posted photos of a conversion device on the back of his Advantage Arms .22lr conversion kit. |
GRANDPA My dad used one in the 60`s 
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I havent shot to many FULL auto weapons I have shot a MAC 45acp Im pretty strong but I couldnt handle it I would of done better if I used the pull out wire stock Thats the Last weapon I would want to use I liked the STEN much better |
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Here is some pic's of a G18 in action mag dump and another M249 |
| yeah my fathers friend uses a m1 carbine forhunting whitetail and it is the same rifle he used in nam he said he used to call it his "snooper rifle" he was a sniper he said they used the m1's equipped with a infra red scope for low light close range night sharpshooting. kinda neat.. he showed me a picture of him in nam and the rifle had the biggest scope ever. |
| Real quick, back about dealer's having autos and such. For what purpose? One of this board vendors has a little shop loaded with them and they are complete and utter snobbish jackasses about it too. We need them to demo for the local police. Yeah, okay, since when does a Police Department need a BAR? Those asshats just loved to rub their autos in your face. If they so much as put one in their trunk and drive home, their a felon, right? |
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You would be shocked at what some police departments have in their armories. And I help them get their toys. I know a few guys (LEOs and C3 dealers) with real G18s and a few guys with conversions. I generally don't like compensated pistols, but the G18C I recently shot was VERY controllable. Mark |
| yeah i was surprised by the stuf i have seen LEO's carry my uncle was a correctional officer on CERT and became a police officer and now is on SWAT and i was surprised with the stuff they had on cert then i saw some of the stuf they had on SWAT wow...and i was surprised they can even have anything close to that tactical stuf while on regular duty. he took me and my cousin "his son" to his work one day to the range where they qualify and we had got to hold all types of weapons and take pictures. m14's, mp5's, ar's, they had some glock 17 conversions with stocks on them "id rather have the mp5" haha we even got to shoot a ar. they had tricked out HK USP's and tacticool shot guns. even got to hold a RGB6 i believe its a tear gas launcher with a cylinder on it. like a giant revolver. stuff is insaneeee |
Jealousy is an ugly thing.  ETA: No, they're not a felon for bringing one home. I have a customer of my business who has an FFL/SOT and last week he brought in a gun case with a brand-new 1919A4 they built a few days before in it that he was taking home with him for some reason. Nothing illegal about it as he's an employee and allowed to possess the item and anywhere within the state requires no ATF notification. I had a woody for three hours afterwards.
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