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2/5/2007 9:33:50 AM EDT
I've shot Blazer Brass (9mm, 115gr) on two seperate occasions, and after both times I've had a large lead residue on the end of the barrel. Did anyone else have this problem? (I've got a G19C)
2/5/2007 11:18:09 AM EDT
[#1]
I used to shoot lots of Blazer Brass, never had any lead buildup. Of course I'm the type that cleans the gun after almost every time I shoot it.

Sure it's not a powder film?
2/5/2007 11:54:11 AM EDT
[#2]
Nope, it's lead.
2/5/2007 1:38:30 PM EDT
[#3]
I have seen it with all kinds of ammo, and I don't think it is lead.  Or even if it is, it is a very small amount with the rest being powder residue.  It makes the crown of your barrel look all cratered.  I have also found that regularly cleaning the gun helps keep it to a minimum.  I bought a used G17L a few months ago, and it looked like it had about 1000 rounds through it without a cleaning.  I had to soak the barrel in bore cleaner, and scrape off the residue with a bore brush and then a small screwdriver it was so bad.  But once I did that, the crown looked like new again.
2/5/2007 8:07:09 PM EDT
[#4]
Well, it happens only with this ammo. I thoroughly clean the gun once a week, and pass a cleaning rod in the bore every morning.
2/5/2007 8:18:48 PM EDT
[#5]
Some FMJ rounds have exposed lead at the base and there is enough heat generated when the round is fired to melt some of it.
2/5/2007 10:45:35 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
Some FMJ rounds have exposed lead at the base and there is enough heat generated when the round is fired to melt some of it.

2/6/2007 4:02:18 AM EDT
[#7]
I thought there was a reason I was sure it wasn't lead.  Blazer Brass is made with protected base FMJ, so it can't burn the lead off as you shoot it.  So I am still sure it is a result of the burning powder, and I am also fairly sure that every type of ammo I shoot through my Glocks does the same thing.  You can run a bore brush through it all day long and it isn't going to clean it.  You have to use something larger than the bore size to clean around the opening.

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2/6/2007 8:58:15 AM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Some FMJ rounds have exposed lead at the base and there is enough heat generated when the round is fired to melt some of it.



I do not quite understand this reply.
Either the poster does not believe some FMJ rounds have an exposed lead base or he doesn't believe hot gasses at over 30,000 psi will melt/vaporize soft lead and deposit a small amount at the end of the barrel.
2/6/2007 9:07:47 AM EDT
[#9]
Aren't blazer cases aluminum?  
2/6/2007 9:56:27 AM EDT
[#10]
They make them in both brass and aluminum.
2/6/2007 10:16:13 AM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
Well, it happens only with this ammo. I thoroughly clean the gun once a week, and pass a cleaning rod in the bore every morning.


Why would you run a rod through it every morning...  I am a fan of cleaning but damn...  

It would be a lot of uploading and downloading for no reason.  I think I download and clean my issue weapon about once a month.  It gets fired several times between cleanings...no issues.  I let it go one time for about 1800 rounds  with zero maintenance  during a class and for a week after that.   It rained for 3 days of the class...mud, water...no issues.  I cleaned it up eventually and all was well.

2/6/2007 10:57:51 AM EDT
[#12]
I usually don't carry one in the pipe. No justification for this at work.
It's part of my morning routine... shave, shower, brush teeth, clean bore.

forgot to mention this - before I fired Blazer Brass, I fired Sellier & Bellot (115gr with a silver colored jacket) - is it possible that the S&B deposited the lead and the Blazer just carried it to the end of the barrel?
2/6/2007 1:53:01 PM EDT
[#13]
It is true that some bullets have a lead base. I just pulled a Blazer 9mm 115gr bullet and it is fmj with NO exposed base.





2/6/2007 8:09:13 PM EDT
[#14]
I see... I've noticed that the residue's position matches the part of the bullet that goes underneath the compensator. I have a suspicion that the comp is tearing some of the bullet's jacket away.
2/6/2007 8:33:34 PM EDT
[#15]
Try firing the bullets into something that doesn't damage them and examine one. If you find something interesting, post a picture! You've got me curious.
2/7/2007 9:01:10 AM EDT
[#16]
Alright, I'll go to the range this weekend... gotta find some thick phonebooks.
2/24/2007 6:52:01 AM EDT
[#17]
Hadn't had the time to go to range until today.
I've checked the barrel with a fiber optic probe, the one used by doctors... the leading begins just after the compensator, so I'm 99.5% positive that the compensator tears the jacket. I've arranged with the range master to bring additional types of ammo and a sandbox to capture the bullets, hopefully will conduct a thorough test next week. Will post pictures.